-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 20/06/2010 03:25, Pavlo Shevelo wrote: > But now it's standard for any site to have well-structured "facepages" > (profiles) to provide for academic the mean to: > * properly introduce himself/herself; > * get the idea about who is some other contributor/peer; > * communicate with other people in well-structured way (structured by > groups with particular interests etc.) with modern means to express > support of one's opinion etc. It seems founded.
> So my point is not increase of distraction from content (as main > object of contributor care, intended care I would stress) but the > opposite - significant decrease of such distraction by eliminating the > need of DIY self-care (which is not intended at all). I think it would be interesting to develop this idea. > > The last but far not least: if we really would like to attract more > academics we have to change socialization policies and/or traditions > as academics (most of them) don't like/appreciate blind (anonymous) > peer cooperation. We could make a "expert" class of users, widely known, with admin powers on pages of their domain of expertise, with the possibility to lock articles temporarily from normal editors during edit wars. But they should be expected to give fair attention to alternatives, and respect the NPOV. They would still respond to admins and superadmins. Or would it be too conflicting with the wikimedians principles? I'm always dubious about compromises, because they generally achieve no other goal that artificial consensus at the cost of the conflicting goals. > Or we can look at that in such way: if we are > talking about credibility of content we have to talk about credibility > of contributors as peers in teamwork first. Maybe convincing internationally recognized experts to contribute articles as wp users (like Hawking on Astrophysics) would start the desire among experts to have a say among their peers? So wp could become a little more a place of exchange of expert knowledge. > That's why we will need as much of real&exact info on "facepages" as > possible plus as much de-"virtualization" by mean of meetups as > possible. Look on experience of de:WP. Why not create Wikipedians clubs in localities and schools that try to maintain a few pages about specific information dear to the members, yet still of encyclopedic value, like the local history or cultural highlights or natural wonders or a local artist or project, or just a shared dream, a story, a feeling, a song, etc. Why not propose to schools to publish the adventurous projects of each classes in a special section of the WMF foundation ? > Sincerely, > > Pavlo > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:16 AM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> To attract academics this is and must be viewed as a serious endeavor. >> Yes some aspects such as reverting vandalism could have a fun twist >> applied to them but the creation of content must remain simple and >> serious. Wikipedia already has a problem with its image regarding >> credibility. Things that would affect Wikipedia's image must be >> carefully considered. I personally do not need further distraction >> while I edit. Medpedia http://www.medpedia.com/ has more of a >> facebook appearance to it and for that among other reasons I will not >> contribute their. We need to keep our goal of writing an encyclopedia >> first and foremost. >> >> -- >> James Heilman >> MD, CCFP-EM, B.Sc. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMHl4KAAoJEHCAuDvx9Z6LQPsH/3zdYUVHtsCezGM13Xx3DR5B LLLzbctmxTbDy+HrkEQWRWZacZvGGNNa6/ke5vKymLphfsurge7+UkJxZFFtHQeC zSgnL3it2sDYSUVhtsGF9s63hzz1L/oUUz7qmKSiNxsM885aCk+t5W729Zt0a/1c DMlKRKjWWowUDJsIHdqQ3g4KbTbhs+zkH+KaCFWQx41cT5otDT73ExlaETaHksYT WTqAm/8mXdjgFP4Np/fJ5m/OyYV35pmE5uZzHAq69MQLKXVTSoOcC7CdYF34lQHV m8zlz4xu/5tCBcRsnOdWIUvhpoXeh4UbHG9jLUhHShKp0Bm60c1NAd9cnjBausg= =4e98 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l