Hello, 2010/7/2 <wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk>: > wjhon...@aol.com wrote: >> >>> If a way of halting the gross infringements can't be done. Then go back >>> to hitting the seeders with $22,000 fines per infringed work. The >>> economic costs of simply walking away and not stopping the piracy are >>> too much. >> >> They know perfectly well how to do it, they've been doing it. >> If you can't actually get 85 million dollars out of a 13-year-old girl, >> well then that's your tough luck, welcome to jurisprudence U.S. style. > > The loss to the economy is staggering. Yet you'd do nothing, apply no > sanctions, bitch about rights management, and let $billions each year be > filtch from the creative industries. That 13 yo is as much a thief as > the person that smashes the jewelers window and throws the contents into > the street. Maybe we should have her MySpace and Facebook page branded > with THIEF.
Sorry, but this is complete bullshit. There is no loss, because most of the music which is freely downloaded would never be bought. These $billions never existed, and there will never exist. I even think that the opposite is sometime true. That by making a work freely available online, you create an incentive for buying it. Since the cost of the online publishing is marginal, there is an opportunity for profit. >> And if after you keep attacking housewives and children, your image is >> horrible, well that's your tough luck as well. >> If people hate you because you're trying to protect a work on which you >> haven't *actually* made any income in thirty-five years.... that's your tough >> luck. >> >> I shouldn't use the work "luck" however in this case, since it implies you >> didn't bring it upon yourself. > > What that someone who creates something that others want is to blame, > because others have decided that they somehow have an entitlement to take? > >> How about this counter-offensive. Threaten to repeal copyright to the >> point, where any holder *only* gets ten years. That's it. >> Ten years to make your money then it's public domain. We can call it the >> "Knock it off or else" proposal. > > The bulk of the theft is contemporary works, not the works from 10 years > ago, but the works that were created last week. > > That aside if I invest a bunch of money in some stocks that gives me a > share in the profits of that companies I've invested in. No one says > that in 10 years time my rights to a share in those profits are forfeit, > and the rights devolved to some general class of whiners and moaners > with an inflated sense of entitlement. You cannot blame others if you invest money in the wrong place. The point is that the publishing industry _has_ to review its economic model with the new technical situation which is the Internet, and whether it publishes music, video or text. Regards, Yann _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l