2010/9/7, Tim Starling <tstarl...@wikimedia.org>: > > If you don't like it, you can request that it be switched off, using > Bugzilla. You will need to demonstrate that the community is in favour > of such an action.
This is not proactive. Giving more power to the admins is a constitutional change. Usually a constitutional change requires a referendum beforehand (An amendment to the United States Constitution must be ratified by 3/4 of the state legislatures, WP says). You don't simply switch to the new constitution and tell the people who are unhappy with the new constitution that it is their burden to demonstrate that the older constitution was better. And when a constitutional change changes a democracy into a dictatorship without the freedom of speech, it is too late to express yourself after you have lost the freedom of speech. >> * The pdf tool is not fulfilling the licenses of images imported from >> Flickr. This is typically a tool enabled on all projects without >> consulting with the communities. That tool should be disabled at once >> from all project, until it is repaired (which might mean redevelopped >> from scratch). (2) > > Is there a bug report for this? No and there won't be (at least from me). Because I don't know if it is a bug or a feature. Show me the specification of the pdf tool first. I will see if the specification says that pictures' photographers should be credited. If the specification says so, I will report it as a bug. But if the specification does not say so, it simply means that I disagree with the specification. And I don't think bugzilla is the proper forum to discuss specifications. If there had been a talk before implementing the tool between the developpers and the Wikimedia Commons community, I would have been able to say how I see such a tool. Basically I think that every description page from Commons must be added at the end of every pdf produced. That will make the pdf a bit longer, but it is an easy and secure way to have the pictures properly described, and licenced. This is not my idea. This is what somebody else answered to a newbie asking how to best credit pictures when a wiki article is distributed in printed form. This is part of the common knowledge at wikimedia commons. By the way, the pdf of [[:fr:Valery Giscard d'Estaing]] (1) is properly crediting at least some photographers. But I wonder why File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-1990-0309-027, Dresden, Volkskammerwahl, BFD-Wahlkundgebung.jpg (2) is marked as "public domain" in the pdf instead of "creative commons". My feeling with that pdf tool is that I am the first person ever to care on how pictures are credited. So I think it has never been specified as a requested feature. That means how little the WMF cares about respecting licenses. I think it is partly thoughtlessness, partly an agenda to remove contributor's names from wherever is possible, so that the WMF can dominate the contents and do whatever it wants with them without the contributors being able to control. An agenda to use the volunteers not as partners, but as a pleb available for [[:en:corvée]] (3). The removal of the article's history tab from mobile.wikipedia.org (merely linking to the main websites's history tab is not the same as including it within the mobile.wikipedia.org website) sounds more like an agenda than mere thoughtlessness. (1) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val%C3%A9ry_Giscard_d'Estaing (2) http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-1990-0309-027,_Dresden,_Volkskammerwahl,_BFD-Wahlkundgebung.jpg (but the pdf is not crediting the photographer of Fichier:Bundesarchiv B 145 Bild-F075424-0004, Bonn, Genscher mit Politikern aus Frankreich - crop 2 - Anne-Aymone Giscard d'Estaing.jpg ) (3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corv%C3%A9e _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l