Without having formed in opinion either way to what has come out of the trial 
or the straw polls, I don't understand why there is such importance placed on 
*technically* disabling the feature.  If en.WP doesn't want to use it, why 
don't they not just move all the articles back to semi-protection?  Empty out 
the pending changes from the on-wiki interface. This would likely have to be 
done *before* disabling it anyways. Just because the extension is installed 
doesn't mean it has to be used. I can see no reason why Erik or Danese should 
be being asked to determine consensus. 

I get that this is an important political issue for various people.  I don't 
get why the devs are being focused on.  Please let the devs out of the 
argument. I can't imagine why any of them would want to touch that button with 
a ten-foot pole until you have clearly decided.  Especially as it isn't really 
necessary for them to be involved in achieving a negative result.

Birgitte SB

--- On Tue, 9/28/10, Erik Moeller <e...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> From: Erik Moeller <e...@wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 4:42 PM
> 2010/9/28 Risker <risker...@gmail.com>:
> > Ummm, no, Erik. The objective was to have consensus to
> KEEP it on, not
> > consensus to turn it off, and that was always the
> agreement. There was
> > never, until the lack of consensus to keep it on
> became clear, a direct
> > suggestion that we'd be stuck with it.
> 
> Anne, there are no obvious answers here. Two thirds of the
> community
> told us "Please keep this feature enabled", some of whom
> said "we
> should expand this to all (BLP|high-risk
> articles|whatever)". Jimmy
> posted interpreting this as direction-setting for continued
> testing
> and development, and asking us to provide a development
> timetable,
> which we did. Had we then said "Oh, sorry, no consensus for
> anything,
> we'll just turn it all off for now", we'd have a different
> set of
> people heaping blame on WMF right now. At the end of the
> day it's just
> a feature that we're continuing to improve, and it's up to
> the enwiki
> community to figure out how/why/where it wants to use it.
> We have no
> stake in this, other than wanting to support the project as
> best we
> can.
> -- 
> Erik Möller
> Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation
> 
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