On 1 March 2011 15:54, SlimVirgin <slimvir...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 16:41, Pronoein <prono...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Le 01/03/2011 18:31, Michael Snow a écrit : >> > On 3/1/2011 12:57 PM, Pronoein wrote: >> >> If there is such a minority of ethical concerns, it could be one of the >> >> reasons that volunteers are leaving the boat. >> > Based on the one survey of former contributors that has been conducted >> > (see >> > http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Former_Contributors_Survey_Results), >> > this doesn't figure highly enough to demonstrate the kind of significant >> > minority you suggest. Rather, the concerns of those surveyed are >> > overwhelmingly about how rulebound, overly complex, and unfriendly their >> > work in the community seemed to be. Perhaps somebody would care to go >> > back through the full survey responses and see if they can identify >> > comments that fit the "I was being exploited" line you're pushing here. >> >> Michael, I wouldn't underestimate the "I'm being exploited" feeling for > people either leaving, or failing to join up. In Wikipedia's early years, we > were exploiting ourselves, as it were. But the more of a corporate structure > the Foundation assumes, the greater the sense that we're working for > something in which we have no input. There will be a tipping point that > differs for each individual, and they may not even express it in those > terms.
Ah, Sarah, I don't think that's particularly fair. Bear in mind we've just published a strategic plan that 1,000+ Wikimedians helped create. I'm not denying that some Wikimedians may feel alienated from the Wikimedia Foundation: I'm sure it is true for some. But "something in which we have no input" is, IMO, not a fair characterization. Thanks, Sue > > Sarah > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l