On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:45 PM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
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> 
> People bring up the forum because this (foundation-l) is the central list
> for the Wikimedia Foundation. Anyone who thinks that this particular issue
> is outside of this list's scope is insane. Using internal-l as a substitute
> for an open discussion isn't appropriate or in line with Wikimedia's values.
> 
> 

+1

I don't cultivate information the way I can only imagine MZMcBride does. So I 
have no reason, outside such insinuations, to believe that internal-l is being 
used for general discussion instead of just specific contract talk and similar 
threads requiring confidentiality. And such winks are so often misleading by 
way of Chinese whispers, that it the easiest of exercises to assume there is 
nothing significant to them. Except for the other comment that some people 
refuse to join foundation-l makes me wonder where such people *do* discuss 
general topics. If there are any people participating in general topic threads 
on internal-l while remaining silent during the same time period in transparent 
forums, they should blush every time they type the word transparent.  I hope 
that if former category exists at all, they are so not foolish to ever find 
themselves in the latter position. If it is otherwise, will they please from 
this moment forward allow others to take the lead on that particular issue. I 
would hate to see the work towards transparency set backwards because someone 
too much connected with such work is exposed as a hypocrite by a rival during 
some period of bad blood. 

BirgitteSB


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