On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 11:54:44PM +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > > > Yes, exactly! You're smart! :-) > > > > Now, one definition of censorship is : > > * Filtering on the basis of prejudicial labels. > > > > We're not actually allowed to censor, because censorship is evil. > > > > If we want to do this, we'll need to figure out a way to make an image > filter > > which does not use prejudicial labels. > > Or we just reject that definition as obviously not applicable. If people are > choosing for themselves whether to filter and, if so, what on then it > clearly isn't censorship.
[citation needed] I don't see why it isn't applicable. You have a censorship tool (your prejudicial labelling scheme), and you are applying it for its intended purpose (albeit mildly). I think that's pretty much sufficient to cross the line into actual censorship. Even if you can't quite see how right now, AMA probably can and has. (I can easily think of some scenarios myself, if you like. In fact, I gave some tangential examples on this list today.) But... even if we can't agree that *that* is actually across the line, the same censorship tool can still be used by others for more sinister purposes. High quality prejudicial categorization would most certainly be a boon for 3rd party censors, in many many ways. So the options you are advocating are either (arguably) actual censorship, or (if we can't agree to that) the enabling of 3rd party censorship. The board themselves in their decision are very careful not to cross those lines. My one issue with the board is merely that I think it is very hard _not_ to cross the line. Of course, some people don't see the danger, and blithely cross the line anyway. (Thus proving my point for me much better than anything I could say myself O:-) ) sincerely, Kim Bruning citation: http://www.ala.org/ala/issuesadvocacy/intfreedom/librarybill/interpretations/labelingrating.cfm -- WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH CENSORSHIP IS OPENNESS _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l