German laws matter for german citizend. It's still not clear what that means for the rest of us (except that de.wp took a decision)
2011/9/16 emijrp <emi...@gmail.com>: > Again, who are "we"? And why do German laws matter with USA servers? Why > does only German Wikipedia exclude that images? Are English Wikipedia or > Commons blocked in Germany? > > By the way, not all German Wikipedians/readers are under German laws. > > And I don't remember any Wikipedia removing content to respect Chinese local > laws when Wikipedia was blocked there. > > 2011/9/16 Tobias Oelgarte <tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com> > >> Very simple: There is the Schutzlandprinzip. [1] To bad that EN has no >> article for it. But you can read the following articles to understand >> why this example was stupid, and that we bound to this laws, even if the >> servers are at nirvana: >> * >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works >> * >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Trade-Related_Aspects_of_Intellectual_Property_Rights >> * >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization_Copyright_Treaty >> * >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Industrial_Property >> >> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzlandprinzip >> >> Am 16.09.2011 13:01, schrieb Strainu: >> > Not really, no. What does german law have to do with reading or >> > editing some website in Tampa or Virginia from somewhere in Asia? I >> > can understand that german nationals cannot use that image, but >> > whatabout other germen speakers? >> > >> > Strainu >> > >> > 2011/9/16 Liesel<koehler-liese...@gmx.de>: >> >> Your stupid! >> >> >> >> Am 16.09.2011 12:39, schrieb emijrp: >> >>> Hi all; >> >>> >> >>> There are more issues with images in German Wikipedia. >> >>> >> >>> It is funny how German Wikipedia doesn't allow images[1] (image added >> by >> >>> me[2] in de:, and later removed by other[3]) because they follow the >> most >> >>> restrictive copyright law from Germany, Austria and Switzerland[note >> 1], but >> >>> they are now against giving people the choice to hide images. >> >>> >> >>> I think that we can do a nice move here. We can enable image filter in >> >>> German Wikipedia for all those who don't want to see >> >>> copyrighted-images-for-German-law, meanwhile allowing other people to >> see >> >>> all Commons splendour. Using the image filter to improve the rights of >> >>> readers of German Wikipedia. Very cool, right? ; ) >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> emijrp >> >>> >> >>> [1] >> >>> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bildrechte#Wikipedia_richtet_sich_nach_DACH-Recht >> >>> [2] >> http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alexander_Knox&oldid=81377280 >> >>> [3] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Knox >> >>> >> >>> [note 1] I heard there are German speaking users outside Europe, right? >> I >> >>> heard too that, from Germany, you can follow interwiki and see that >> images >> >>> in other Wikipedias, right? So, what is the sense of that policy? Are >> not >> >>> the servers in USA? >> >>> >> >>> 2011/9/16 Tobias Oelgarte<tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com> >> >>> >> >>>> Dear readers >> >>>> >> >>>> Yesterday, on September 15th 2011, the German Wikipedia closed the >> poll >> >>>> (Meinungsbild) "Einführung persönlicher Bildfilter". [1] It asked the >> >>>> question if the personal image filter can be introduced or if it >> should >> >>>> not be introduced. >> >>>> >> >>>> A strong majority of 86% percent voted to not allow the personal image >> >>>> filter [2] , despite the fact that the board already decided to >> >>>> introduce the feature. >> >>>> >> >>>> The questions are: >> >>>> * Will the board or the WMF proceed with the introduction of the >> >>>> personal image filter against the will of it's second largest >> community? >> >>>> * If the WMF/board does not care about the first question. Will it >> >>>> affect the way the personal image filter will be implemented? For >> >>>> example: Not for all projects. A different implementation as suggested >> >>>> inside the "image filter referendum". >> >>>> * Will there be an attempt to follow this example and to question >> other >> >>>> communities the same question? >> >>>> >> >>>> Greetings from >> >>>> Tobias Oelgarte >> >>>> >> >>>> [1] >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%C3%B6nlicher_Bildfilter >> >>>> [2] >> >>>> >> >>>> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Einf%C3%BChrung_pers%C3%B6nlicher_Bildfilter#Auswertung >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> foundation-l mailing list >> >>>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>>> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> foundation-l mailing list >> >>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> foundation-l mailing list >> >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > foundation-l mailing list >> > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
