Hi Beria, I'm sorry - I wrote this in a hurry and don't necessarily want to further crowd foundation-l.
The point about Goma is that he (and other Catalan Wikipedians) don't need to feel any more excluded than they already do (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_CAT/en) The point about me is superfluous. I guess I was reacting to the incredibly harsh tone of (most) of your messages. I apologise; there is no excuse for reproducing the kind of behaviour that makes me despair. Achal On Tuesday 15 November 2011 08:02 PM, Béria Lima wrote: > Achal, I don't quite understand what is the idea, meaning or whatever you > wrote in your mail. > > Can you explain (this time with full and meaningful sentences), please? > _____ > *Béria Lima* > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 > > *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho.<http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 15 November 2011 14:19, Achal Prabhala<aprabh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Can we not pick on a person whose "POV" is that he wishes to participate >> in the Wikimedia movement in the fullest way possible? >> >> Pick on me instead. Oh wait... >> >> Best wishes, >> Achal >> >> On Tuesday 15 November 2011 07:40 PM, Béria Lima wrote: >>> OMG Gomà, can´t you leave any thread in peace without push your POV? >>> _____ >>> *Béria Lima* >>> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 >>> >>> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a >>> construir esse sonho.<http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* >>> >>> >>> On 15 November 2011 09:37, Joan Goma<jrg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:12:42 +0000 >>>>> From: B?ria Lima<berial...@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust >>>>> >>>>> *The way I see is India is a land of immense potential for the >> Wikimedia >>>>>> Movement. IMHO, There is enough space of 10 chapters and Wikimedia >>>>> offices >>>>>> to co-exist and work together in India.* >>>>>> >>>>> Did you ever read the Chapter Agreement you signed with WMF? That >>>> document >>>>> states that WMIN is the ONLY chapter of WMF in India, and that any one >>>>> organization must have their "approval" to work in Indian soil (I'm >>>> saying >>>>> that based in WMPT agreement, WMIN one might be different.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I think that the spirit of an agreement is more important than its >> wording >>>> but >>>> I would like to comment both. >>>> >>>> Regarding the wording, in my opinion what the contract says can be >>>> interpreted exactly the other way around. It says that to create another >>>> chapter in the same geographical area WMIN will be consulted. [1] It >>>> doesn’t say that the approval of WMIN is needed. Furthermore to create >> an >>>> organization different than chapters not even that consultation is >>>> foreseen. >>>> >>>> As for the spirit I feel that the impression that chapters have private >>>> ownership of land is a big mistake that can leads us to a situation >>>> contrary to >>>> our values. This exclusivity is contrary to the spirit of sharing. We >> are >>>> not cultivating potatoes where the owner of the land keeps the >> potatoes. We >>>> give the potatoes away. The more and better people working the land more >>>> potatoes can give away. We don’t need land owners, what we need are >>>> people working >>>> the land. >>>> >>>> I think these organizations should be happy of having there each other >>>> andsee >>>> a chance that what one of them can’t do, perhaps will be done by the >> other. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundation#3.%20Geographic_limits >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> foundation-l mailing list >>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l