I'm speaking as an individual here, not on behalf of my chapter.
The problem that the English language Wikipedia has that the German
language one does not, is that we cover countries as far apart as the
libertarian micronation of 'Sealand
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand>' in the UK, the
deepest parts of the US bible belt, and areas such as Pakistan and
India, which have sizeable English-speaking populations and a very
strong religious vein. With such a diverse worldwide readership on one
language, it is only natural that people from the bible belt /do/ have a
say in whether or not having an image filter is appropriate. We owe it
to these people to make sure that Wikipedia is not blocked in their
countries.
Andreas raises some good points, and while I don't agree with him
/completely/, I do feel that the current filtering system on the English
projects is simply not working as well as it could. That said, it's not
an insurmountable problem, and I think most of the global community (all
languages included) would agree that a easier-to-use filter system is
needed. I don't think it's helpful to use comparisons to the "bible
belt" or "English speaking attacks". My wife is from the bible belt and
is really quite reasonable (most of the time...)
Richard Symonds
On 10/03/2012 11:26, Möller, Carsten wrote:
I would like it the other way:
Why should some minorities force a worldwide project to obay their point of
view regarding images or other controversial content?
Why should the german speaking community collect funds for this filtering and
hiding project?
Every community is free to discuss which image is shown on a article by article
basis.
And they have the option to use some tricks to show a certain image only after
a second click, if they find that approbiate.
The German, Austrian and Swiss chapters would love to keep their share of the fundraiser
in Europe and have a separate "eurocommons" without the sometimes funny attacks
by english speaking users on some images. That would also avoid taxproblems on this side
of the pond.
I think our financial stake is big enough.
Ist not the biblebelt or Hisbollah or Syria or Putin to dicte the rules.
Carsten Möller
Hamburg Germany
One thing I've never understood is why the Board wants to
allow the German
Wikipedia community to dictate what will be done in Commons, English
Wikipedia, and dozens of other projects that the German
community has no
stake in.
If the German Wikipedia does not want the image filter, then
let them opt
out. They genuinely need it less than most other projects ?
they serve a
culturally homogeneous language region whose standards are very
progressive, and they are generally more judicious in the way they use
explicit content.
But it is not fair to say that other projects can't have the
image filter,
just because the Germans don't want it, or need it.
German Wikipedia has Pending Changes, English Wikipedia
doesn't. Did we
tell the Germans that because English Wikipedia gave Pending Changes a
thumbs-down, it was verboten for the Germans to have it?
It's not the German community's place to dictate global WMF policy.
Andreas
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