On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: > It's a matter of creating a separate list and importing the members from the > current list (foundation-l), right?
Yep. > Will foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > continue to function after April 7 (as a redirect/alias) or will only the > new address? Only the new address unless we're being extra clever, which I'm not sure is necessary. > Will the archives be permanently split? Probably -- advanced mailman surgeries carry a high risk of fatal mistakes (e.g. we have a fancy pipermail URL alias, but the archive rebuild is causing URLs to change, or some such nonsense), so it's generally best to avoid them. But I'll ask Daniel Zahn, who's performed some trickier surgeries recently without fatalities (as far as I know). > Are there any other consequences of a list rename? You will feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. > I'll note (again) that in your 2004 proposal to create "foundation-l" you > specifically cited the desire to "avoid 'Wikipedia/Wikimedia' style typos" > by not choosing "wikimedia-l" as the list name.[1] I'm still not sure a move > (from "foundation-l" to "wikimedia-l") has more benefit than cost. I am indeed aware of my own objection, even if it is somewhat dated. The main reason for making this change, IMO, is to account for sensibilities and perceptions that largely did not exist in 2004, when "Foundation" first and foremost referred to a bunch of people who cared more about meta-issues than others -- the org as such barely existed beyond paper, let alone the complex network of chapters, the GLAM groups, etc. Now, when you have discussions like the recently posted Draft Charter of the Wikimedia Chapters Association, or the previous extensive discussions about fundraising, to undertake them in a venue named after one specific org serves as a distraction, and has caused some people to express that they don't want to participate because it's a list for "Wikimedia Foundation matters", giving people justification to move things to private lists that should be public. So, names do matter. I'd be happy to have an even more generic name that avoids potential typo issues, but I do think the benefit of making the name less WMF-centric outweighs the cost. -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
