On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Liam R E Quin <l...@holoweb.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:06 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote:

>> Is the GNU system for programmers only ? I doubt that is what you
>> mean.
>
> I'm sure it isn't.

I know :-), I'm just pointing out that's what it looked like.

> The software for the mobile devices has to be written by programmers.
>
> If the programmers write the software on desktop computers then we want
> them to be using GNOME while they do it.
>
> If programmers have to use some other desktop environment when writing
> the application, they'll want to have that same environment on their
> mobile devices, and that will have an impact on GNOME's usage.

I'm really not worried about programmers desktops - GNU/Linux is so
widespread in the technical fields that this is a battle we are
already doing well in (not as well as I'd like, I'm still massively
irritated by how many of my programmer colleagues think it's
acceptable to use a freedom-hurting Apple laptop/desktop, but I
digress). The goal we should be aiming for is freedom for all computer
users, and like it or not, the majority of computer uses in the next 5
years will be on phones and tablets.

To pretend otherwise and focus on PC-style devices is trying to gain
traction in a shrinking market, which outside of business use will
soon be irrelevant.

Jeremy.
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