On Tue, 2013-03-12 at 09:26 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 10:03 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I think it's clear from the recent thread that most people had
> > no idea we had a Jabber server, or that they could get accounts
> > on it, or how to go about doing so.
> > 
> > What's more, over the last week, I tried to help two people use
> > their jabber.gnome.org accounts with no success.
> > 
> > I think it's unfair to judge the popularity of this service when
> > it has been so buried and so extremely difficult to use.
> > 
> > It also seems we can't create group chats on jabber.gnome.org,
> > which limits our ability to use it as an official channel for
> > GNOME teams.
> > 
> > I propose that we address these issues to give Jabber a fair
> > shake. We can then reevaluate its popularity in six months.
> 
> As I already mentioned privately, I don't think the admins want to have
> to maintain the OpenFire Jabber server. First, as Olav mentioned,
> there's no SSL support for a service where you would expect privacy.
> Furthermore, I would expect the security concerns of running such a big
> service on GNOME servers to be a burden on the admins.

Is this just because we chose a particularly bad Jabber server?
I have a hard time believing nobody's figured this out yet.

Incidentally, SSL doesn't work on our IRC network. So I get to
send my password in plain text to register with our new bot.

> Why not get the GNOME jabber service (co-)hosted somewhere else, where
> it would be possible to add the features you want?

What would we have to do on the GNOME side to allow this?

--
Shaun


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