I feel like everything about this has been stated twice, can we please stop
with that thread?

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:05 PM, Magdalen Berns <m.be...@thismagpie.com>
wrote:

>
> > >
>> > >
>> > > > [...]
>> > > > It seems proportionate to try to seek compelling evidence to
>> support the
>> > > > hypothesis that this is a problem but also that the suggested
>> solution
>> > > will
>> > > > address that problem in a representative way.
>> > >
>> > > Please, go ahead, collect the evidence and present it here.
>> >
>> > I am going to need cooperation with getting access to all the relevant
>> > data, but I am happy to proceed on the basis that I get that. This can
>> be
>> > taken forward, as far as I am concerned.
>>
>> What is the relevant data that is not already public?
>
>
>> The list of interns is interns is public, the same as the period of
>> internships, commit logs, bug reports, mailing list discussions.
>
>
>> People who stayed involved should have activity after their internship
>> finished it.
>>
>
> Looking at that alone would bias the result. Off the top of my head, these
> data would need to be compared to the data of sponsored/paid employees
> contributing to GNOME since 2005 and that data assessed against how
> foundation applications have been handled each year and member engagement
> post acceptance/rejection of foundation memberships too. Taking all the
> associated errors into account and doing this should help give a fairly
> comprehensive overview of the situation and help us determine whether our
> assumptions on perceived differences between the motivations of those who
> are paid for shorter period of time than those who are paid for longer
> periods of time, are justified.
>
> At the moment we have no reason to assume that all volunteers and
> sponsored contributors alike will have a 100% commitment rate and there is
> certainly no reason to assume that any paid contributor is any more likely
> than any other paid contributor to stay committed to GNOME contributing
> once there is no financial incentive to do that, without evidence to
> support that theory.
>
> In other words, an early objective would be to determine whether interns
> are more likely to lose interest than other kinds of contributors when they
> are no longer being offered a financial incentive by comparing contribution
> behaviours between interns and other kinds of contributors.
>
> Magdalen
>
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