Your right Alberto. Is very important to check out how to invite him to help not just blame. I'd made when possible, but no pro-active actions back from him.
And yes, any action should be on get better understand about GNOME's philosophy on community and user feedback. May offer alternative sites, where GNOME Board and maintainers, can post or discuss complaints and as a source of information to clarify some points or just to help any to highlight issues on actions taken or to allow any one to support any discussion against blames, specially if they're unsupported. El may. 16, 2016 8:54 AM, "Alberto Ruiz" <ar...@gnome.org> escribió: > That's not quite precise, his handles, domain name and twitter account > include GNOME in them as well as the descriptions: > > https://plus.google.com/+WorldofGnomeOrg > http://worldofgnome.org/ > https://twitter.com/worldofgnome > > Having said that, I'm not sure trying to shut things down with via > trademark is the appropriate response and would prolly have a Streisand > effect. At the same time, many of us have raised this concern with Alex and > it doesn't look like he fully acknowledges that he is unfairly piggybacking > on the GNOME trademark to attract attention towards his site and videos. > > I think that sponsoring Alex for a trip to GUADEC to actually understand > the people and get involved in the community process is probably a reaction > with more chances of positive outcomes than attempting to shut down a site > with 8K followers. > > > 2016-05-16 14:43 GMT+01:00 Andrea Veri <a...@gnome.org>: > >> Hey Daniel, >> >> after a quick look the person in question does not seem to use any >> GNOME-related and protected by law logo or trademark on his Google+ >> page. The posts he makes look to me like personal opinions about GNOME >> and the technologies around it. One should be either free to follow >> him or not but even the Google+ page name mentions "Wogue" as its >> title with a custom logo which doesn't seem to infringe any of the >> trademarks registered by the GNOME Foundation. >> >> If you find out any trademark infringement on the resources you >> pointed out please let the Board know and it will be investigated. >> >> 2016-05-16 14:48 GMT+02:00 Daniel Espinosa <eso...@gmail.com>: >> > Could you include a point to discuss how to avoid any organization or >> > individual, could use GNOME trademark to promote against GNOME? >> > >> > Is the case of World of GNOME (WOGUE on G+). It recently has pushed >> blaming, >> > unsupported complaints (based on real data from projects maintainers). >> > >> > While I'm not against he can publish his complaints on GNOME, I think he >> > can't use GNOME trademark to push negative, or few news to try to >> support >> > its negative ideas about GNOME. >> > >> > Sure, feedback is good, but while he is not part of GNOME Foundation, >> may he >> > is unable to use GNOME trademark to blame and no positive actions to >> help. >> > >> > El may. 16, 2016 2:53 AM, "Andrea Veri" <a...@gnome.org> escribió: >> >> >> >> = Minutes for Monday, May 9th 2016, 19:30 UTC = >> >> >> >> Next meeting date Monday, May 16th, 19:30 UTC >> >> >> >> Wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20160509 >> >> >> >> == Attending == >> >> >> >> * Alexandre Franke >> >> * Jeff F. T. (chairing) >> >> * Ekaterina Gerasimova >> >> * Cosimo Cecchi >> >> * Allan Day >> >> * Rosanna Yuen >> >> * Shaun McCance >> >> >> >> == Regrets == >> >> >> >> * Andrea Veri >> >> >> >> == Missing == >> >> >> >> >> >> == Agenda == >> >> >> >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting >> >> * ED Search Update >> >> * GUADEC Manchester bid >> >> >> >> === Ongoing === >> >> >> >> '''The following section is part of the Agenda and includes items which >> >> have seen updates in the last 30 days. Items which have been updated >> more >> >> than 30 days ago are listed under the "Ongoing but stalled" section.''' >> >> >> >> * ED Search Update >> >> * Unixstickers >> >> * Google ad grant >> >> * Selling 3rd party merch at confs >> >> * Friends of GNOME >> >> * GUADEC registration fee vs donation system >> >> >> >> == Minutes == >> >> >> >> * Preparing the advisory board meeting >> >> * Meeting is scheduled for Monday 16th May at 16:00 UTC >> >> * Allan has a presentation draft and asks for Board members to give >> some >> >> presentations >> >> * And also should fill in as backup speakers in case some of the >> >> invitees are not able to talk >> >> * Need a volunteer for ED search update >> >> * Shaun is happy to talk but we need to come up with a narrative >> >> * Allan will prepare a draft for slides, and will require input from >> >> some Board members to add data, and general proofreading >> >> * Screenshots can be taken from the release notes, and we can use >> some >> >> event photos too >> >> >> >> * ED Search Update >> >> * There was a question about whether we should revise the >> position/job >> >> description, but the Board did not come to a conclusion on this in >> previous >> >> discussion >> >> * ACTION: Rosanna to tell Jonathan to go ahead with the job search >> >> >> >> * GUADEC Manchester bid >> >> * The Board received a bid from Manchester for GUADEC 2017 >> >> * There's a document to review >> >> * We want to meet with the organizing team(s) at GUADEC this year >> >> * When do we want to announce the next location? At GUADEC? >> >> * For the schedule proposed by Manchester, this would be possible, >> but >> >> depends on how many other bids we get >> >> * It's not a requirement to announce it at GUADEC >> >> * There are no other bids for now >> >> * Is there anything obvious missing from the bid? We should >> communicate >> >> that sooner rather than later >> >> * We can review the document on the m-l, collect questions and get >> back >> >> to them >> >> * ACTION: Kat will collect and send comments once we have reviewed >> the >> >> document >> >> >> >> == Ongoing == >> >> >> >> '''This section includes items which have seen an update in the last 30 >> >> days. Format is "YYYY-MM-DD, action|discussion|resume" for this and >> >> subsequent minutes sections''' >> >> >> >> * ED search update >> >> * 2015-12-01, No news received in recent weeks, mostly because of >> >> holidays >> >> * 2015-12-08, 3 candidates are going to have a couple of one hour >> >> interviews with ~2 members of the hiring committee per interview. >> Scheduling >> >> of these metings is just beginning. >> >> * 2015-12-15 to 2015-01-12, No updates. >> >> * 2016-01-19 >> >> * Committee has completed interview with two final candidates >> >> * They should have a final answer/proposal to the board within a few >> >> weeks >> >> * 2016-02-02, Expect more news this week - we'll start scheduling >> >> interviews soon >> >> * 2016-02-09 >> >> * Sri from the ED committee wants to present to the Board at next >> >> week's meeting >> >> * A list of candidates that are deemed good and have been vetted by >> the >> >> committee will be presented at the meeting >> >> * 2016-02-16, The ED Search committee converged on a single candidate >> >> * 2016-02-23, The item has been discussed during the meeting, details >> >> are available at >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2016-February/msg00003.html >> >> * 2016-03-14, Jonathan Blandford (jrb) has agreed to lead >> >> * 2016-04-11, Jonathan mailed the Board mentioning the ED Search >> >> Committee is back on track, they'll start meeting on a regular basis >> again >> >> >> >> * Unixstickers >> >> * 2016-02-02 >> >> * Allan has an action item to follow up with this >> >> * Kat put some information on the agreements page for similar cases >> >> * 2016-02-09, Allan drafted email - need to send that out >> >> * 2016-02-16, Allan has been in touch with them. Got a good response >> and >> >> sent a draft agreement document. Will be having a call with them on >> Friday. >> >> * 2016-02-23 (excerpts taken from the mailing list) >> >> * Allan confirms the Unixstickers team read the draft trademark >> >> agreement and acknowledged it >> >> * 10% of the proceeds will be returned back as royalties >> >> * Only GNOME sticakers are sold right now, the idea is to encourage >> >> them to also sell t-shirts and mugs >> >> * 2016-03-01, Allan followed up and is now waiting to hear back to >> >> Unixstickers >> >> * 2016-03-08, Allan to ask who will pay for postage >> >> * 2016-03-22, they'll pay for sticker postage >> >> * 2016-04-04, Allan has asked Pam to draft an agreement for them to >> >> sign. Waiting to hear back. >> >> * 2016-05-02 >> >> * Pam sent a draft back to the Board, certain details (such as >> royalty >> >> prices for items) are still to be discussed >> >> * A vote has happened on the mailing list as a general "we're good >> with >> >> it" approval, another vote will be required before signing it >> >> >> >> * Google ad grant >> >> * 2016-02-02, Alexandre to follow up with the procedure to get >> >> registered >> >> * 2016-02-09 to 2016-02-23, No updates >> >> * 2016-03-01, Shaun will ask his contacts about TechSoup as joining >> the >> >> organization is required for us to be recognized as a non-profit from >> Google >> >> * 2016-04-11, Rosanna to provide Shaun the needed tax-related >> >> documentation (IRS Data check should be enough for Google to assign the >> >> grant if the non-profit is US based) >> >> >> >> * Next adboard meeting >> >> * 2016-02-09, ACTION: Shaun to send out email to find a good time for >> >> the meeting >> >> * 2016-02-16, ACTION: Shaun to schedule the next meeting >> >> * 2016-03-15, The item has been discussed during the meeting, details >> >> are available at >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2016-April/msg00000.html >> >> * 2016-03-22, The item has been discussed during the meeting, details >> >> are available at >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2016-April/msg00001.html >> >> * 2016-03-28, The item has been discussed during the meeting, details >> >> are available at >> >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-announce/2016-April/msg00002.html >> >> * 2016-04-04, ACTION: Allan to follow-up to Rosanna's e-mail to the >> >> advisory-board mailing list proposing a new date >> >> * 2016-04-11, ACTION: Shaun to pick up potential dates and mail >> >> advisory-board list proposing a new date (ideally during the first >> week of >> >> May, it's too late already to plan it in April) >> >> * 2016-05-02 >> >> * The scheduling survey suggested the meeting time being Tuesday >> 3rd of >> >> May, too late to prepare a meeting for that date >> >> * A new meeting date / time is being scheduled during the next two >> >> weeks >> >> * The Board brainstormed for possible topics and prepared an Agenda. >> >> Allan and Jeff are going to cooperate in order to prepare a >> presentation >> >> covering all the topics we decided to talk about >> >> >> >> * Friends of GNOME >> >> * 2016-04-04, ACTION: Andrea to get in touch with Tobi about what he >> >> needs in order to migrate the Paypal scripts over to the GNOME >> Foundation >> >> Infrastructure >> >> * 2016-04-04, ACTION: Shaun to investigate other possible solutions >> to >> >> mere Python scripts + Paypal API solution >> >> * 2016-04-04, ACTION: Allan to investigate what information is >> needed to >> >> answer frie...@gnome.org queries, with a view to potentially turning >> off >> >> paypal notifications to that address. >> >> * 2016-04-11: Allan has documented the result of conversations with >> >> Rosanna and Tobi here: >> https://wiki.gnome.org/Engagement/FriendsOfGNOME/FAQ >> >> . Next step is to discuss the privacy aspests. >> >> * 2016-04-04, ACTION: Allan to get in touch with the Engagement team >> >> about all this as a first step,with a view to recruiting people to >> maintain >> >> Friends of GNOME and document how it operates. >> >> * 2016-04-11, ACTION: Alexandre to request more information about the >> >> donation data from the European donations system (Wau Holland Stiftung >> >> Foundation) >> >> >> >> * Selling 3rd party merch at confs >> >> * 2016-04-11, There's a proposal (by Allan) to sell third party >> >> merchandise during GNOME events >> >> >> >> * GUADEC registration fee vs donation system >> >> * 2016-05-02, ACTION: Alexandre to ask WHS about the fee >> >> >> >> >> >> === Ongoing but stalled === >> >> >> >> '''This section includes items which haven't seen an update in the >> last 30 >> >> days.''' >> >> >> >> * Google Play account >> >> * 2015-12-01, ACTION: Alexandre to follow up with the Release Team >> about >> >> this >> >> * 2015-12-08, Alexandre mailed the Release Team today, still waiting >> for >> >> an answer. >> >> * 2015-12-15 to 2016-01-19, No updates. >> >> * 2016-02-02, Release team did not come to an agreement/conclusion. >> >> Unclear what next steps should be >> >> >> >> * Status of logo copyright >> >> * 2015-12-01, ACTION: Shaun to send out email to d-d-l with proposal >> >> * 2015-12-08 to 2016-01-19, No updates. >> >> * 2016-02-02, Shaun will try to pick it up this week >> >> >> >> * Meta-discussion on attracting new contributors - >> >> https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/attracting-contributors-discussion >> >> * 2016-01-05, Item has been deferred. >> >> * 2016-02-09, Allan and Jeff have a list of ideas, we could rank >> them by >> >> feasibility/effectiveness and take action on the first few >> >> >> >> * Bitcoins donations data >> >> * Tobi is the only person with access to the Bitcoin donations data >> >> * 2016-02-23, ACTION: Alexandre to get in touch with him about this >> >> * 2016-03-01, Account is on BitPay using frie...@gnome.org >> >> >> >> * Conference sponsorships >> >> * 2016-03-15 >> >> * ACTION: Kat to adapt a contract from previous years' conference >> >> brochures >> >> * ACTION: Jeff to chase the companies for a second time after the >> pages >> >> (where the status of whether/which companies have been contacted is >> listed) >> >> are up to date >> >> >> >> >> >> === Ongoing but no director assigned === >> >> >> >> '''This section includes items which haven't seen an update in the >> last 30 >> >> days and have no Director assigned''' >> >> >> >> * Sysadmin fundraising levels and perks (last discussion from >> 2016-01-05) >> >> * 2016-01-12, Awaiting for Andrea's reply >> >> * 2016-01-19 >> >> * Andrea replied back to Jeff >> >> * Jeff to bring the item back during any of the upcoming meetings >> >> * 2016-02-23, Jeff un-assigned the action item from himself, no >> current >> >> assignee >> >> >> >> >> >> == Nice to have == >> >> >> >> '''This section includes items which we would love to see happen at >> some >> >> point but lack the time to effectively become reality''' >> >> >> >> * Web page for prior pants winners >> >> * Shaun and Allan to do this >> >> >> >> * Contract template for future use organizations for which we handle >> >> money >> >> * Kat to draft this >> >> >> >> * Gifts situation >> >> * Inventory management: some stuff we have heaps of, some we run >> out of >> >> stock quickly; consider an on-demand production service >> >> * Christian to investigate >> >> >> >> * Licensing of artwork and visual assets >> >> * Engagement team doesn't always licence photos on gnome.org and >> soon. >> >> We need guidelines for them to follow. >> >> * Allan and Sri to draft guidelines and discuss withthe Engagement >> Team >> >> >> >> * Privacy campaign funds >> >> * Previous plan was for Kat to propose privacy bounty T&C/rules for >> >> review >> >> * Cosimo to follow up with interested parties on how to spend the >> >> Privacy campaign funds >> >> >> >> * GNOME logo use by podiatrist - possible trademark infringement >> >> * Shaun to check the trademark details for the GNOME logo and update >> the >> >> licensing page on the website (obsolete) >> >> >> >> * Money raised for defense against Groupon >> >> * Kat to draft a call for Free Desktop-style hackfests which would be >> >> sponsored with money raised for defence against Groupon >> >> >> >> * Logo usage for t-shirts >> >> * Allan to carry on with the process and follow up and have some >> general >> >> guidelines written down for future cases >> >> >> >> * Standard code of conduct for GNOME annual events (so we don't have >> to >> >> reinvent the wheel each year) >> >> * Cosimo to follow up in the upcoming meetings and prepare a version >> of >> >> the CoC to be finally considered final over all the GNOME yearly events >> >> >> >> * Privacy policy for GNOME services >> >> * Current draft is at https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/Privacy >> >> * Sysadmin Team's NDA should also be covered when dealing with this >> item >> >> * Andrea to write up the policy >> >> >> >> * gnome-software privacy issues >> >> * Software sends information to third parties; could have legal >> >> implications for GNOME >> >> * Allan to look at this >> >> >> >> * Photography policy for GNOME conferences >> >> * Cosimo to draft a proposal to discuss on foundation-list >> >> >> >> >> >> == Completed actions == >> >> >> >> * Yorba Copyrights >> >> * 2016-03-28, ACTION: Kat to communicate with Yorba and propose them >> to >> >> first get in touch with other organizations then come back to the GNOME >> >> Foundation if not satisfied by the proposed options >> >> * 2016-05-09, Adam got in touch with the Board mentioning the fact >> Yorba >> >> successfully transferred its copyrights to the Software Freedom >> Conservancy >> >> * GNOME (Reg. No. 3,142,483); G and Foot Print design (Reg. No. >> >> 3,142,484) >> >> * 2016-05-02, ACTION: Jeff to check archives and ask Pam >> >> * Follow up "Cairns Hosting GNOME Asia Summit" >> >> * 2016-05-02, ACTION: Jeff to call back >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Andrea >> >> >> >> Debian Developer, >> >> Fedora / EPEL packager, >> >> GNOME Sysadmin Team Coordinator, >> >> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman >> >> >> >> Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> foundation-announce mailing list >> >> foundation-annou...@gnome.org >> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-announce >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > foundation-list mailing list >> > foundation-list@gnome.org >> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> Andrea >> >> Debian Developer, >> Fedora / EPEL packager, >> GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator, >> GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary, >> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman >> >> Homepage: http://www.gnome.org/~av >> _______________________________________________ >> foundation-list mailing list >> foundation-list@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Alberto Ruiz >
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