On Mon, 14 Mar 2005, Jonas Maebe wrote:


On 14 mrt 2005, at 11:11, Michael Van Canneyt wrote:

No, because normally, one never mixes 'procedure of object' with 'procedural'.
You program either linear, either OOP, so you either use one or the other,
never both. The distinction is also very clear.

Except when programming a compiler, apparently :)

Indeed :-)


No, because in this case, you are comparing 2 basically different programming
techniques: OOP and linear; they are fundamentally different in their practical use.

With nested procedures, you are emulating parts of OOP using procedural programming. They were some form of OOP avant-la-lettre.

That is a new definition :-)


I don't see much code out there which mixes the two.
(I'm talking 50-50%, not 99-1%)

They all have their own uses.

Absolutely. I agree 100%; for me, it depends on the project; where OOP is more useful, use OOP. Where procedural makes more sense: use procedural.


I want to make clear that I am not against the concept "an sich".
If the compiler was born 'out of the blue', and it supported 'iso'
procedures from the very start, the problem would not exist. All procedures
(local and global) could be made 'iso-aware', and you would be able to pass
both local and global functions for the same procedural parameter.

Then you'd get problems with C callbacks...

On top of all other things :-)


The problem is that we are in the situation where the majority of
existing code does not work like that, and that we have to introduce a
'schisma' in the compiler. I'm not particularly fond of this idea.

The "majority of existing" code depends on whose code it is. Existing programs will not notice anything, for them declaring a procedural variable type in a parameter list will remain impossible. It's only for people using MacPas mode, who are used to these semantics, that things will change (or rather remain the same compared to other compilers).

Macpas mode and iso callbacks: No problem...

Michael.

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