Jonas Maebe schrieb:
On 07 Jan 2014, at 15:35, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:

2) The stupid conversion to CP_ACP in an assignment *to* an
RawByteString should be dropped. This applies in detail to the
assignment to *function results*.

The conversion does not happen for all assignments, it only happens
for concatenations that are assigned to RawByteString. And even then
it doesn't always happen. Please read the wiki page I wrote (trying
to prevent exactly this kind of wrong statements from being further
repeated, and obviously failing).

I've tested the behaviour, and it appears not only in assignments to RawByteStrings. See test case below.


Test case: function conc(a,b: RawByteString): UTF8String; begin
Result := a+b; end;

This will always return CP_UTF8 on FPC. Does it really return CP_ACP
on Delphi? Even if it does, I doubt we will change that.

This leads me back to my previous statement: it will be simpler to do things right, than trying to achieve compatibility with *all* Delphi flaws. In detail when the Delphi flaws never have been documented...

We even
couldn't easily do that, because we don't know the static code pages
of the strings that are concatenated inside the RTL routine that
handles this.

Right! Only the compiler can do that, and therefore the compiler should do it right.

Then TStrings could be based on such RawByteStrings, without excess
conversions or losses.

The problem with changing TStrings from AnsiString to RawByteString
is not so much related to the behaviour of RawByteString, but more
regarding descendent classes in existing third party (= user) source
code that override methods using AnsiString parameters. We don't want
to force everyone to rewrite their code so it uses RawByteString (if
anything, RawByteString should probably be used as little as possible
in user code, because always correctly dealing with all possible code
pages is very hard).

Right <sigh>

Sorting (TStringList) eventually should ignore the dynamic
encoding, i.e. work on a strictly binary (byte-by-byte) base.

Looking for just one second at the definition of the Sort methods of
TStringList (and TStrings) would have prevented you from writing the
above statement, which does not make any sense whatsoever (unless you
want the compiler to start changing all code where a programmer
passes a comparison function that does take code pages into account
to the Sort methods of TStrings/TStringList).

Fine that you took the bait ;-)

DoDi

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