Thorsten Otto via fpc-devel <fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org> schrieb am Di., 25. Jan. 2022, 13:03:
> On Dienstag, 25. Januar 2022 12:22:33 CET Karoly Balogh wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, Thorsten Otto via fpc-devel wrote: > > > > Yes, a.out support (which is used on Atari) has been dropped in 2.31. > > > > But i've added it back in, and cross-binutils of 2.34 can be found at > > > > http://tho-otto.de/crossmint.php#binutils > > > > > > Won't really help. As you found out already, section smartlinking won't > > > work with a.out. It never worked in any version of binutils on any > > > platform. Actually I went the vasm/vlink route, because the AS/LD > versions > > > I found online at the time I worked on the port, crashed hard on me on > > > EmuTOS/Hatari, and vasm/vlink just worked. Plus the vasm/vlink combo > > > supported section-based smartlinking. This is something actually I > > > requested from Frank Wille to be added to vlink, and he was nice enough > to > > > add it for us. It's used on Amiga, Atari, and the Sinclair QL. Just for > > > reference without some kind of smartlinking, we'd end up having a > 300K-ish > > > hello world... Instead of 25K-ish... So yeah. > > > > > > (We do support individual .o/.a based smartlinking too, that should work > > > for Atari as well, but you'll literally end up growing roots, it's so > > > slow, I promise. So it just wasn't practical...) > > > > > > > That does not mean that the section based linking will work. I'll have > > > > to check whether that can somehow be supported. > > > > > > I based on my experience with customized binutils, recommend against > > > fighting with this. I'd much rather just generate an ELF binary, where > all > > > the shiny features are available and tested, then convert it with some > > > tool to a native binary for the target. Actually we have several > platforms > > > which do this or something similar already. If I'm not mistaken, GCC for > > > Atari used to have some tool like this? Brownout, maybe? > > > > > > > Yes, but when i use gas, i think fpc won't generate the required > section > > > > directives? > > > > > > This is intentional. FPC knows that GAS for Atari uses a.out (or used at > > > the time, when I wired this together), and avoids generation sections, > > > because they just didn't work (they didn't even compile back then). > > > > > > Anyway, all of this is 2017-18 wisdom, or so. I haven't looked into your > > > updated binutils yet, so feel free to correct me regarding it, if > > > something which hasn't been supported before now is. :) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > -- > > > Charlie > Can it be that you forgot to write some reply here, Thorsten? Regards, Sven >
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