On 21.05.2011 12:59, Jonas Maebe wrote: > They don't want to force everyone to install firebird, mysql, postgresql, > ptcgraph, gtk, gtk2, qt and every other single thing for which FPC has > bindings.
"force" is the keyword here. The entire following rant refers to only this one word: Its not their [Debian] business to find non-solutions for these non-problems, I would just ignore this. They are first making up a non-existing problem (people being "forced" to do something they allegedly don't want, although we all know the opposite is true and people *always* want a complete and painless install to avoid all sorts of problems) and then they are presenting the non-solution to this non-problem: Do a lot of work to split things that always belonged together while creating a lot of new problems and dependency hell nobody has asked for and nobody ever wanted. Just ignore what they [Debian] want. It is not relevant what they believe (or guess) what your users might want. Don't let them damage the usability and the reputation by listening to them and wasting time solving their fantasy problems while this is leading to the creation new and very real problems. The sheer existence of this thread (and other threads like this and many more) is testifying this. The Debian maintainers have no expertise in judging what the users of a given software really *want*, especially if they don't use it themselves. Simply ignore them. Their opinion does not matter. They will accept the big package. Don't bow to them, they want something from you, not the other way around! The windows installer of Lazarus clearly shows how usability looks like. This is what users want! There is no reason why this should not be possible on Debian also. If Debian policies (or like in this case not even the written policies themselves but only the beliefs of some overzealous Debian maintainers) are the only thing preventing usability from coming true then to hell with them. Bernd _______________________________________________ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal