Perhaps. However, I can speak from the experience I had at a company where the manager of documentation attended design-phase meetings for the products, and then she assigned a writer when a prototype was available. The doc mgr was able to provide key input about the user base and do some basic QA of GUI concepts that eliminated a lot of the inconsistency issues within the GUIs, and she provided ideas for combining GUIs or menu architecture in ways that made sense to the users, based on comments we received in (oddly enough) documentation feedback forms. (Apparently people will complain whenever they see an opening, in hopes that someone will pass it along.) When a prototype was available, the doc mgr then assigned a writer and handed off to the writer at a product meeting. After about 6 months of handling products this way, product managers commented positively about the effect on the product of having the doc mgr involved. They didn't have as many issues with rework at a point when the code was more complicated. They got better feedback from customers when marketing presented prototypes. QA was pleased with the improved consistency and usability of the screens. Engineers, while initially resistant to the idea, discovered that they could leverage TWs for screen checks, freeing up themeselves for more technical efforts in development. Of course, the impact on documentation itself of earlier involvement in the process was readily apparent. TWs knew more about the subject product, because they had more time to learn it before the final delivery. Extending the timeline for the documents by involving TWs earlier in the process resulted in higher quality documents from a technical standpoint as well as from an organizational/doc structure/writing quality standpoint. It became possible to deliver high-quality documentation AT the general availability (GA) date of the product, rather than doc lagging behind. And of course, the customer benefited. It may be an old argument, but when it is put into practice, the proof is in the pudding. It's an old argument because it stands the test of time and trial. Rene Stephenson
Technical Writer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } The argument that TWs should be involved from the design inception is an old one, and not often found outside the circle of TWs. The reason is simple; in the olden times when the waterfall was the design method of choice, the docs--and the app--pretty much stayed the same. And most of both failed miserably. In 2007, agile development is proliferating, and RAD and XP are the methods of choice for initial prototyping and proof-of-concept. The reason some 70% of software development projects fail is not that it is especially difficult to write good apps; it is because the majority of those apps are so poorly designed that they don't do anything useful. With RAD, it is more useful to develop a working prototype, and let the people paying the bills see what they are going to get. THEN is the time to involve TWs--at the same time it is handed off the Java Dilberts. --------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:27:59 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: radical revamping of techpubs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] HA! Quite true! TW's usually also bring an approach that is closer to "green field" than the developers, engineers, etc., can provide. Because they understand how THEY INTEND for it to function and be used, they can be a bit myopic about how what they have CREATED actually plays out. Rene Bill Swallow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd say that those are additional skills. What I took Chris' remark to mean is that writers should be there through the entire process, involved with design, so not only do they influence the product design along with the other stakeholders, but also have a means of thoroughly planning the entire documentation effort as part of that product development planning. Let's face it, most tech writers come at a product from a different angle than an engineer or a tester. It may not always be user focused, but it certainly is from a task-based angle. "Is this thing going to be well thought out and therefore easy to explain or is this going to be yet another 100 page install procedure?" --------------------------------- Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! Try now! _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.