Art, No, not in this case. The source language files (English) are written in FM8.02, saved as MIF8, translated into 21 languages (using several different translation tools and workflows), and then opened in FM8.02. It is when opening the files in FM that some glyphs are missing (that are present in the MIF files). We have checked some of the glyphs that are missing, and they are within the Unicode range that FM8 supports. Mats Broberg
________________________________ From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 2008-03-08 21:52 To: Broberg, Mats Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) Mats, Are the files, by any chance FM files from a pre 7 version? If so, the missing glyphs may be non-Unicode characters that aren't being converted in the new Unicode world. Art On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Broberg, Mats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Diane, > > This is very difficult to detect if you don't know what you are looking for. > > The errors occur when you open translated MIF files in FM. In twentyone > 2,000 word texts, there were all between 40 to 2 missing glyphs (Note: > Glyphs, not characters) per language, except in four languages. If a word > suffers from a missing glyph, there will be no extra space in the word, which > makes it even more difficult to detect. Just browsing the pages is not enough > to detect the errors. You must do a diff analysis, see below. > > The missing glyphs are indeed present in the MIF file, correctly represented > in ASCII, but if you open the MIF file in FM, then resave as MIF, the glyphs > are gone in the MIF file. So it is the act of opening a MIF file in FM that > seem to create the errors. > > Our agencies detected the error by running a diff program between the FM > texts and the translated texts from the translation tools. Several different > workflows and translation tools were used, so, supported by the procedure in > my OP, we fear this is not user-related, but a true bug. > > Mats Broberg > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sat 2008-03-08 10:01 > To: Broberg, Mats > > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) > > > > > > Mats, > > Among other things, I manage localization for my company. We use FM8.02. > We have not noticed any problems so far, but I'm epecially interested to > know the symptoms of the problem and if there are any workarounds. Does it > happen only when opening the files? > > Thanks, > Diane Gaskill > Hitachi Data Systems > ========================= > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Art Campbell > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:26 AM > To: Rick Quatro > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Possible MIF -> FM bug in FM 8.02 (p273) > > > Yes, please share with the list -- that's _why_ there's a list. > > Art > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Rick Quatro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi Mats, > > > > Can you share the bug with the list so we can all be aware of it? Thank > you > > very much. > > > > Rick Quatro > > Carmen Publishing > > 585-659-8267 > > www.frameexpert.com > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > There seems to be a serious bug in FM 8.02 (p273) when opening a MIF > > > file in FM. In 21 languages we translated into, it affected all but 4. > > > This bug has been reported to Adobe. > > > > > > If someone on the list is working with multilingual content in FM8 and > > > want more information, pls contact me off-list. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Mats Broberg > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > -- > Art Campbell > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 > Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
