True, but the text-frame approach gives you more control over the formatting of all of your callouts.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:42 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Text Frames on Graphic It might not be relevant in your situation, but you don't really need a text frame to add callouts on top of a graphic. Just use the text tool on the graphics toolbar. You can change the font, size, and color as necessary. You can also add arrows and simple shapes. Clint Clint Owen Technical Publications Crane Aerospace & Electronics 425-743-8674 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:39 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Text Frames on Graphic Linda, Okay, I tried that when you first replied, but it didn't do anything to fix it. So, after reading your second message, I tried again, this time selecting just the graphic and not the anchored frame it was in, and it seems to have solved the problem! So, thank you VERY much for the solution, as this seems to have fixed the problem! Thanks again, and thanks also to Deirdre Reagan, who responded off-list! Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Linda G. Gallagher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:33 PM To: Sam Beard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Text Frames on Graphic Please try it. I know what the function is supposed to be for, but I'm quite certain it fixed the problem. Rick Quatro even has a plug-in (that I use) to fix this problem throughout an existing book and for every new graphic you add. http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/runaroundnone/index.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Sam Beard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:25 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Text Frames on Graphic Linda, That seems to apply to graphics when you're placing them inside a text frame on a page and you want that text to flow (or not, as the case may be) around the anchored frame. In this case, I'm trying to get a text frame (used for callouts) to display correctly on top of a graphic placed inside an anchored frame on the page. Or am I missing something in what you've said? Samuel I. Beard, Jr. Technical Writer OI Analytical 979 690-1711 Ext. 222 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Linda G. Gallagher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:17 PM To: Sam Beard; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Text Frames on Graphic I believe you need to set the runaround properties of the graphic to None. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:12 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Text Frames on Graphic Hello All, I'm using Frame 7.2p158 on Windows XP. I'm having an issue with text frames on a graphic. I need to place some text frames to use as part labels on a graphic. I've created some text frames and entered in the text I need for some of the callouts. I've then tried to move them into place on the graphic (which is inside an anchored frame). I can place some of them and they show up and I can also select them and relocate/resize them as needed. However, some of the text frames don't allow this. Indeed, they end up showing the text being below the bottom margin of the text frame. I can't Control-click on the frame to select it and I can't resize it without moving the underlying graphic. I've tried sending the graphic to back, bringing the text frames to front, but it doesn't make any difference. I've also tried looking in the manual and saw something about selecting a different color view, but it's really unclear exactly what to do there. I've tried a couple of things with the color views and they haven't made a difference. Can someone please tell me what's happening here? Sometimes, I can place a text frame on top of a graphic and have it display just fine and others I get the same effect here: the text frame indicating the text is outside of the frame's margins. Sometimes, if I nudge the graphic one way or another, the text reappears in the text frame. However, that's usually if the text frame is near the edge of the graphic. In this case, I need the text frame over the middle of the graphic. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance, Samuel I. 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