Judy, It sounds like you need some help setting up the numbering of chapters, headings, pages, and figures in your template. If you are in San Diego, I think Matt Sullivan is in your area and my understanding is that he is knowledgeable about FM and the TCS. His site is http://www.grafixtraining.com/
If you have to go it alone then I think the "Adobe FM7.0 Classroom in a Book" is a good resource. I had a great FM teacher in Boulder CO and we used that book. I'm in a similar boat in that I'm very familiar with RH, but less so with FM. Are you importing FM8 files directly or importing by reference? Importing by reference means your FM8 files stay synced with your HTML output. Two days ago I hooked up (imported by reference) an FM8 book to RH7 based on a PDF presentation from Kevin Siegal and a video by RJ Jacquez (see below). I have most of the stuff working that I need and I am trying to iron out the style mapping. I may wait to come back to this project after I've taken Kevin Siegal's virtual training class. Search for Kevin Siegal's presentation called "Blurring the Production Lines" here: http://www.stc.org/edu/55thConf/index.asp Kevin Siegal's site is http://www.iconlogic.com/ I plan to take his virtual training class called "Integrating Adobe's Technical Communication Suite" on October 18. RJ Jacquez, Adobe Product Manager, has a training video on getting started with TCS. Its located at https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p13101233/ I've gone thru this a couple times and made a how doc from it. I'm getting grief from my manager because he said that he thought TCS was supposed to be integrated. He's half joking, but the additional time its taking me to figure this out from sources outside the user doc is messing up my schedule. Its too bad the product documentation from Adobe does not adequately cover the integration of FM and RH. One last thing. When the sys reqs for TCS say Intel(r) Pentium(r) 4 processor, they mean it. After a series of daily crashes, I'm upgrading my 1.5 GHz Pentium machine with 2 GB RAM to 2.8ghz p4 Dual Core processor with 2 GB RAM. Good luck and stay in touch, Charlie Kyle -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:54 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output Charlie, I'm trying to do the same thing. I've used RH for years, but I'm new to FM. I've finally gotten *most* of the unstructured FM functionality down and I'm moving my doc set into TCS. I'd be more than willing to share notes. I began with 1 shorter chapters (less than 100 pgs.) and was able to import them by copy to FM8 and tweak the formatting. I was also able to successfully add those by reference to RH.(At least I got topic files in RH. I haven't fiddled with the TOC and index.) Last week I attempted a much larger chapter and RH doesn't recognize it as a valid FM file. I found a thread in the user forum that said there's a file size limit. If I remember correctly, their experience was that 25MB would work. I've had 15MB files go "unrecognized". I went back into FM and learned a lot about document properties and book settings, and am in the process of trying to work around that size limit. I was trying to include numbered chapters, headings, figures, and pages. I can do it successfully in 1 continuous *.fm file, but I have trouble if I have to break it into smaller files. I can get the page numbers to run consecutively, but heading, figure and table numbers restart with each new fm file! I think I may be able to further decrease my file size by entering the images by reference too, but that will take way more time than I have before my release deadline in early Dec.. (Did I mention I'm a lone writer and have to start writing the new content now?! This is a major leap of faith!) Does anyone out there have any ideas? Judy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:00 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15 Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Handling source files for translation to several languages (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA) 2. RE: FM8 HTML output (Diane Gaskill) 3. Re: FM8 HTML output (Yves Barbion) 4. Re: Hypertext command (Shlomo Perets) 5. Translation into japanese and chinese (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA) 6. Is it possible to use a PNG with transparency in FM 7.2? (Roger Bell) 7. RE: Tageditor and Framemaker, any special rules (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA) 8. RE: SOLVED Re: Acrobat displays only B/W (Lea Rush) 9. Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA) 10. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (John Posada) 11. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Vijay) 12. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Rick Quatro) 13. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Yves Barbion) 14. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Scott Prentice) 15. RE: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Kelly McDaniel) 16. OT: Place to search for Frame contracts (Jerilynne Knight) 17. Display date text insets changed in containter file (Mollye Barrett) 18. FM8 crashes (Charlie Kyle) 19. RE: FM8 crashes (Lea Rush) 20. RE: Handling source files for translation to several languages (Diane Gaskill) 21. RE: FM8 crashes (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)) 22. RE: FM8 crashes (Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)) 23. Rename Files - Was Hypertext command ( FCI Info ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:46:14 +0200 From: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Handling source files for translation to several languages To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ad.c om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We are going to translate our FM books into several languages. We use unstructured Framemaker. Right now our directory structure looks as follows: Language folder - Text insets (corporate) (disclaimer, warranty, eula, terms of use) - Graphics (corporate) (logo, IVD, CE) - Text insets (product-specific) - Product manual folder - Framemaker files - PDF files - Graphics (language specific) - Graphics (product generic) Do you have a suggestion of how to handle the translation process? I know that the translators are to use a tag editor and that the files are to go into Trados. I suggest that the Framemaker files are converted to .mif and that the same folder structure is created in each language. I also suggest that we keep the same file names for graphics in all languages. How do you handle it all? Do you track changes between editions in the FM source file, use pdf comparison or a separate Word file, or something else? Do you write down each graphics which has been updated since the last edition? If you have a well-proven procdure for updating translated manuals I would be greatful. Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------------------------------------------- Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 -------------------------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) contains confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the addressee. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may constitute a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by responding to this e-mail, and delete the message from your system. If you have any questions about this e-mail please notify the sender immediately. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:53:13 -0700 From: "Diane Gaskill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output To: "Charlie Kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matt Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Combs, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Charlie, I and my colleagues can recommend Matt highly. He came to HDS and taught us how to use the TCS in just two days. He did a great job. Diane Gaskill Hitachi Data Systems Santa Clara, CA -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charlie Kyle Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:29 PM To: Matt Sullivan; Combs, Richard; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output I am in the midst of hooking up a FM8 book to RH7. I'm following the instructions from RJ Jacquez demo at https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p13101233/ This seems to be the only source of information from Adobe on how to do this. I'm importing the book by reference into an existing RH7 project and then going thru a reiterative process to fine tune stuff like style maps and xref styles. I was completely baffled by how get the FM TOC and Index associated with the Help project. As I was writing this email, I remembered a presentation by Kevin Siegal that I downloaded from the STC 2008 Conference web site. In there, I just found out that the TOC and Index have to be assigned to a RH layout. Caution! Small Digression: This process is reminding me of when I used to try to play Dungeons and Dragons from a VAX command line prompt. This was BI (Before Internet) when we had more time for such things and Games weren't part of the GNP :-) Does anyone know of a source for some information about hooking up FM8 books to RH7? Thanks, Charlie Kyle -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:29 PM To: 'Combs, Richard'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 HTML output If, along with FM, you have a need to keep Acrobat, Captivate or RoboHelp licenses current then the TCS is hard to beat. Along with the 4 apps is extra integration beyond HTM or Help outputs. Put Flash movies & simulations along with working 3D models into FM and output to the needed PDF or Help format. TCS 1.x is a bit finicky in setup and can have a 5-10 hour learning curve on the first project, but has a huge return on investment after setup. Currently there are only a few folks who can help with support outside Adobe. If you need help, let me know. If anyone else out there is working at a high level in this, let me (& Adobe) know and we can trade notes. -Matt Sullivan _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink .net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:51:38 +0200 From: "Yves Barbion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FM8 HTML output To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Better news is also that the new ePublisher platform (2008.2) has improved A LOT: - Better UI - Good DITA support (with the DITA Open Toolkit integrated) - Better documentation (Help) and a wealth of valuable information on the WebWorks site (videos, wiki Help Center...) - The ability to handle "mixed content" as input: not only "unstructured" FrameMaker files, but also DITA maps and even W*rd files. Surely, only 1 "input adapter" is included when you buy ePublisher and you have buy the additional ones, but at least you have this option. - Better configuration: 1 ePublisher Pro to design "stationery" (style sheets) and a number of ePublisher Express licenses to generate output, using the stationery. - A number of "themes" included by default. So, Bruce, if you develop templates for the writers of your techpubs group, I think the new ePublisher platform is well worth the investment. Admittedly, you'll have to redesign your ePublisher "templates", but you'll get a lot in return. And the tech writers can use Express and your stationery to generate their output. You can always request an evaluation version and compare it with MIF2Go (which is great too) and RoboHelp. -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director Scripto ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89 On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Combs, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > OK, I've got bad news, worse news, and then better news for you. :-) > > Bad: WebWorks Publisher is long dead. You'd have to switch to its > replacement, ePublisher Pro. > > Worse: ePublisher Pro is very different from WWP -- an xml-based > solution with a non-trivial learning curve. Your WWP macro language > skills don't transfer. Old WWP licenses no longer qualify for an > upgrade price. And it costs an arm and a leg. > > Better: If you have to buy new FM licenses anyway, you should > seriously consider the Adobe Technical Communication Suite instead. It > includes versions of FM and RoboHelp that are tightly integrated (or > so I'm told; we're still looking into it here, but are likely to > upgrade to the suite soon). > > IMHO, YMMV, etc. > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > ------ > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > ------ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail .com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:22 +0300 From: Shlomo Perets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Hypertext command To: "Stephen O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Stephen, You wrote: >I place the hypertext command below in a FM 8 document to open a PDF >file on clicking the link. >It works unless the file name has an apostrophe (happens often as the >file names are in French), like below: > >Type: Message Client > >Command: message openfile \\civette/4654 Project d'IMSurvey.pdf > >Does anyone know how to solve this problem? > >For now I remane the PDF file and replace the apostrophe by undescore, >but it's manual and not practical. Would prefer getting the hypertext >command to work... In the Hypertext dialog box, type \" (backslash followed by a straight quote character) instead of the apostrophe. Shlomo Perets MicroType, FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting "24 easy ways to improve your PDFs with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants", http://www.microtype.com/ImprovePDF.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:25:40 +0200 From: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Translation into japanese and chinese To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ad.c om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Our manuals are to be translated into japanese and chinese We plan to a folder structure similart to the that of the English manual. We use Trados and Tageditor. Any problems with file names, folder names etc.? Will a copy of the English folder work when we replace the English files with say Japanese framemaker files. I am thinking of links to graphics and text insets. Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------------------------------------------- Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 -------------------------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) contains confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the addressee. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may constitute a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by responding to this e-mail, and delete the message from your system. If you have any questions about this e-mail please notify the sender immediately. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:34:52 -0400 From: "Roger Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Is it possible to use a PNG with transparency in FM 7.2? To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" We normally use PNG screen captures in our guides. A few weeks ago, I decided I wanted to place a torn edge stamp on one of the images. I saved it in HyperSnap 6.31 with the stamp color as transparent. All is good. When I imported the file (by reference) into FM 7.2 (unstructured), the transparent color was visible. Is this a FM issue or am I missing something here? I don't want to use GIF images because the resolution is poor. 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Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------------------------------------------- Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 -------------------------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) contains confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the addressee. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may constitute a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by responding to this e-mail, and delete the message from your system. If you have any questions about this e-mail please notify the sender immediately. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:44:32 -0700 From: "Lea Rush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: SOLVED Re: Acrobat displays only B/W To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yikes - as a frequent user of Windows shortcut keys, I really appreciate knowing that. Thanks! -----Original Message----- <snip for clarity> Turns out that at some point I had attempted a Redo command by using Control-Y -- the opposite of Control-Z in most applications, but NOT in Acrobat. Control-Y toggles "Proof Colors" and when you turn it ON, your colours go OFF. Really intuitive, Adobe, thanks ;-) Seeing the world through rose-tinted glasses once again, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 _________________________________ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:14:52 +0200 From: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ad.c om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Arrgh All my linked graphics have numbers as the file name, like "08-204". Now the company decision is that they should have letters, like "analyzer_main". We plan to keep all file names the same in all translated languages. Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport. Maybe there is a tool? Med venlig hilsen - Best regards Verner Andersen Technical Writer Radiometer Medical ApS Phone +45 3827 3612 Fax +45 3827 2727 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------------------------------------------- Radiometer Medical ApS Akandevej 21 2700 Bronshoj Denmark Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 CVR: 27 50 91 85 -------------------------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) contains confidential and/or proprietary information intended only for the addressee. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may constitute a violation of law. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by responding to this e-mail, and delete the message from your system. If you have any questions about this e-mail please notify the sender immediately. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:33:44 -0400 From: "John Posada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker To: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 How does it know that "08-204" is the same as "analyzer_main"? > Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport. > Maybe there is a tool? -- John Posada Senior Technical Writer NYMetro STC President 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.' -- Danny Ozark, Philadelphia Phillies manager ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:09:46 +0530 From: Vijay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker To: "John Posada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Verner, I am curious to understand why was the change suggested at this time ? The team / manager must take a decision before beginning the project on the best-practices keeping the future plan in mind, and adhere to it. I believe there will be a valid reason for the current numbered naming convention. So, instead of restructuring the naming convention from numbers to descriptive text, I recommend leaving the file names as is for now. If at all you have no alternative, it is going to be a very tedious and time consuming effort. Regards and Best Wishes, Vijay ************************************************ On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:03 PM, John Posada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does it know that "08-204" is the same as "analyzer_main"? > >> Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport. >> Maybe there is a tool? > > > John Posada > Senior Technical Writer > NYMetro STC President > > 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.' > -- Danny Ozark, Philadelphia Phillies manager ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:48:51 -0400 From: "Rick Quatro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker To: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Verner, The best way to do this is to build a "map" in Excel or in a text file that maps the old names to the new names. Then you can use FrameScript to not only rename the graphics on the disk, but also to update the paths in your FrameMaker documents. You could run the script on a single document, book, or folder. If you are interested in this type of solution, please contact me offlist. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Hello > Arrgh > > All my linked graphics have numbers as the file name, like "08-204". Now > the company decision is that they should have letters, like > "analyzer_main". > We plan to keep all file names the same in all translated languages. > > Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport. > Maybe there is a tool? > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > -------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:54:39 +0200 From: "Yves Barbion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I guess this must be possible with a framescript but, as John pointed out, someone is going to have to create a "mapping table" with the old and new file names of the graphics. I wouldn't have the patience to do this for 300 graphics. And, like Vijay said, does the reason for renaming the graphics justify the effort it will take? You can easily create a hyperlinked list of imported graphics in FrameMaker and there are a lot of (free) "image viewers" available to find and manage your graphics. Kind regards -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director Scripto ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:55:25 -0700 From: Scott Prentice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker To: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'd export the FM files to MIF, then use Perl (or some batch search and replace tool) to rename the references. ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Andersen, Verner Engell VEA wrote: > Hello > Arrgh > > All my linked graphics have numbers as the file name, like "08-204". Now > the company decision is that they should have letters, like > "analyzer_main". > We plan to keep all file names the same in all translated languages. > > Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport. > Maybe there is a tool? > > > > > Med venlig hilsen - Best regards > Verner Andersen > Technical Writer > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Phone +45 3827 3612 > Fax +45 3827 2727 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential > and/or proprietary information intended only for the addressee. > Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on > the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may > constitute a violation of law. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately by responding to > this e-mail, and delete the message from your system. If you > have any questions about this e-mail please notify the sender > immediately. > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp%40leximation.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:00:47 -0500 From: "Kelly McDaniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker To: "Vijay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Posada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I faced a similar issue when I inherited 11 books with almost 1.500 graphics. The graphics file names, in some cases, were numeric, and in others they were human-readable, but in someone else's shorthand. My goal was to segregate books/files into discrete directories with a graphics child directory in each book dir. 1. I created the book/files and graphics directories, establishing a scalable directory structure. 2. I manually moved books and all related files into their respective directories. This broke all inter-book cross-refs. This was OK, since I produce only PDFs. 3. I renamed all books and files to a logical, human-readable scheme. For example, ana_gr_vws.fm became <product framework name>_<application name>_Analyzer_graph_views.fm. 4. I click-dragged ALL GRAPHICS into each child graphics folder in each book folder. 5. I opened the book in FM and answered Use This New Path when the graphics broken link window appeared. 6. I ran a utility to delete all unused graphics. 7. I used a renaming utility to append <product framework name>_<application name>_Analyzer as a file name prefix. 8. I re-opened the book in FM and this time, at each graphics link break, I manually re-established the link to each graphic, repeating the previous few steps for each book. It sounds like a lot of work, but it took less than 50 hours. What I got in the end was a directory structure, file structure, and naming convention that works well for scalability and can readily be used by a junior writer...regards, Kelly. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vijay Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:40 AM To: John Posada Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker Hi Verner, I am curious to understand why was the change suggested at this time ? The team / manager must take a decision before beginning the project on the best-practices keeping the future plan in mind, and adhere to it. I believe there will be a valid reason for the current numbered naming convention. So, instead of restructuring the naming convention from numbers to descriptive text, I recommend leaving the file names as is for now. If at all you have no alternative, it is going to be a very tedious and time consuming effort. Regards and Best Wishes, Vijay ************************************************ On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:03 PM, John Posada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does it know that "08-204" is the same as "analyzer_main"? > >> Is there an easy way to do this without having to reimport. >> Maybe there is a tool? > > > John Posada > Senior Technical Writer > NYMetro STC President > > 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.' > -- Danny Ozark, Philadelphia Phillies manager _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kmcdaniel%40pavtech. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:11:28 -0500 From: "Jerilynne Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: Place to search for Frame contracts To: "Framer's List" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all I wondered if any of you know of a good place to look for unstructured Frame projects or if there is even any need for that kind of support. I'm interested in doing some offsite production or template design work and it has been a while since I needed to do a search, so I'm a bit out of the loop! I have two projects nearing completion and, since I enjoy eating and my landlord loves to get his rent on time, I figured it was time to do some checking! Thanks in advance for any advice/recommendations/suggestions. Have an amazing day, filled with powerful passionate possibilities. Jerilynne (Sander) Knight ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:32:16 -0500 From: Mollye Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Display date text insets changed in containter file To: FrameUsers <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Hi All, My client has many unstructred Frame books (average page count 700 pages)?with text insets and referenced graphics. They want to be able to do a couple of things that elude me... * Display change date on pages in a book where text insets have changed. * Generate a list of changes (not with track changes) so users viewing the final PDF will know what has changed in the newest version of the book. My sense is that this might be done with FrameScript but wonder if there is a plug-in or Frame function that I'm not aware of. All suggestions welcome and any help appreciated! Mollye Barrett ClearPath, LLC content management solutions www.clearpath.cc 414-331-1378 (cell) Director, Marketing Communications Content Management Professionals www.cmprofessionals.org ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:19:29 -0700 From: "Charlie Kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FM8 crashes To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277 With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow down in their Outlook. Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference? Thanks, Charlie Kyle ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:30:33 -0700 From: "Lea Rush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: FM8 crashes To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I haven't run FM 8 (same version, standalone unstructured) very much since I upgraded, but I will say that I have Outlook open constantly and haven't seen any FM or Outlook issues. I'm running on Vista, Core2 Duo 2.20 GHz, 3 GB RAM. Just a datum, Lea _________________________________ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Kyle Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:19 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM8 crashes XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277 With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow down in their Outlook. Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference? Thanks, Charlie Kyle _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lea%40astoria-pacifi c.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:55:10 -0700 From: "Diane Gaskill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Handling source files for translation to several languages To: "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Verner, You save a little money by converting the files to MIF, but it's not needed. Most LSPs will do that for you as part of the prep process. The Translator's Workbench uses the MIF files directly now and does not convert them to Word. I'm under the gun for a Friday deadline and will get back to you later on the tree structure. Cheers, Diane Gaskill ============================= -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andersen, Verner Engell VEA Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:46 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Handling source files for translation to several languages We are going to translate our FM books into several languages. We use unstructured Framemaker. Right now our directory structure looks as follows: Language folder - Text insets (corporate) (disclaimer, warranty, eula, terms of use) - Graphics (corporate) (logo, IVD, CE) - Text insets (product-specific) - Product manual folder - Framemaker files - PDF files - Graphics (language specific) - Graphics (product generic) Do you have a suggestion of how to handle the translation process? I know that the translators are to use a tag editor and that the files are to go into Trados. I suggest that the Framemaker files are converted to .mif and that the same folder structure is created in each language. I also suggest that we keep the same file names for graphics in all languages. How do you handle it all? Do you track changes between editions in the FM source file, use pdf comparison or a separate Word file, or something else? Do you write down each graphics which has been updated since the last edition? If you have a well-proven procdure for updating translated manuals I would be greatful. 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If you have any questions about this e-mail please notify the sender immediately. _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink .net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:15:49 -0400 From: "Gagne, Bernard (Bolton)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: FM8 crashes To: <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had to add my two-cents. We had three systems running FM8 on XP SP2. Two had 1 GB of RAM, one had 2 GB. We had all the updates to Frame 8. We found FM8 would crash several times a day, and always whenever we used an MS Office app. The most frequent culprit was trying to open a mail attachment. Recently, one of us got a new system with a Core2Duo processor and 2 GB or RAM. No more crashes. We're currently lobbying for the other two systems to be upgraded. Berny Gagne Lead Writer Husky Injection molding Systems Bolton, Ontario, Canada -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lea Rush Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:31 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM8 crashes I haven't run FM 8 (same version, standalone unstructured) very much since I upgraded, but I will say that I have Outlook open constantly and haven't seen any FM or Outlook issues. I'm running on Vista, Core2 Duo 2.20 GHz, 3 GB RAM. Just a datum, Lea _________________________________ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Kyle Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:19 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM8 crashes XP SP2, Pentium 1.5 GHz, 2 GB RAM Tech Com Suite 1.3, FM 8.0p277 With Outlook and FM open, FM seems to crash for no reason and I often get very sluggish performance in Outlook. Users around me report no slow down in their Outlook. Has anyone else had problems running FM8 concurrently with MS Office or other programs? Would a faster processor make a significant difference? Thanks, Charlie Kyle ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:13:17 -0400 From: "Bernard Aschwanden \(Publishing Smarter\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: FM8 crashes To: "'Charlie Kyle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you find FM crashes often feel free to email me offlist and I can send you a little batch file I have that deletes the font cache (often found here C:\WINDOWS\system32\fntcache.dat) and reboots. The font cache has caused FM crashes on PDF builds time and again on my system. I've also given this to a few clients who have reported general success. It's not a promise that this fixes anything, and it's also no promise that if things go wrong I'm to blame. It comes with the usual "if this works, great, and if not then it's not my fault and you can't sue me" side of things :) Bernard Bernard Aschwanden President Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:15:17 -0300 From: " FCI Info " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Rename Files - Was Hypertext command To: "Stephen O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The best - and cheaper - program to rename files is Bulk Rename Utility. As I know it's the only that has correct support to regular expressions. Only a satisfied customer. Furia >For now I remane the PDF file and replace the >apostrophe by undescore, but it's manual and not >practical. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers. 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