Damn. Thanks for the heads' up. My hope is that once they consider InDesign to have incorporated Frame's features, they also make the migration of existing Frame projects reasonably simple.
_________________________________ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Findon Sent: lunes, 29 de septiembre de 2008 01:41 a.m. To: FrameUsers List Subject: Migrating features over to InDesign Framers, Following the recent discussion of FM features migrating to InDesign, here's a snippet from an interview between Adobe Co-Chairman John Warnock and Conrad Taylor, BCS Electronic Publishing Specialist Group in 2004. Paul Interviewer: Adobe has found itself in the situation of owning three page make-up systems: PageMaker, InDesign and FrameMaker. I'm not counting Illustrator for these purposes. When one starts to think about Adobe getting involved in document composition issues, it's time to pull out the flipchart and brainstorm about what are the important aspects of document composition to support; which direction to go. Those of us who use these tools often look around at other software: 3B2 does this, Xyvision does this, Quark does this; wouldn't it be nice to put them all in the blender, so to speak, and extract one ideal application. Warnock: Well, that's a complicated problem. And there's a fair bit of disagreement inside of Adobe as to what the appropriate thing is to do. PageMaker as a codebase was just very long in the tooth: it was not a maintainable codebase. It was clear when we acquired it that it was not going to last for very long. Too much spaghetti-code: very difficult. InDesign had just started as a project when we acquired Aldus, and we continued with a very strong group of people: Robert Brainsea and Zak Williamson, and a very strong group of people who built the architecture for InDesign. But they were coming at it from a very 'let's go build magazines' kind of perspective. Then there was the other set of the world that works with highly structured documents, and the FrameMaker world. And I absolutely love FrameMaker; I've been a very strong proponent of FrameMaker. But FrameMaker was also suffering from an old codebase. Essentially, the idea is to start migrating features over to InDesign. Unfortunately, the InDesign crowd doesn't understand the structured document world as well as they need to, and so that migration has been coming along more slowly than I would have liked it to have been. Interviewer: Some of the pagination issues, and table-handling. Warnock: Yes, and cross-referencing, and forward-referencing, and all the things about dealing with highly structured documents. I'm a structured-document person: I like them! Interviewer: You're in good company here! I've been using FrameMaker for Macintosh since version 2.1. And now I shall be using Frame 7.0 on the Mac under Classic mode - for the rest of time, perhaps. Warnock: Well hopefully someday there will be a version of InDesign that will have the same properties. And to InDesign's credit, there are people who have done math plug-ins and have started to get the more arcane things into InDesign. But they haven't fundamentally solved the structure problem. _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lea%40astoria-pacific.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.