We get this exact same response with all but one printer we use, "These are RGB you need to fix." I don't understand why they give us the runaround as they have the software and ability to take just about any rgb pdf and make the necessary plates for printing. I have to get on the phone with them time and time again about this. I have to do this for all my clients who want to print as well.
I'm hoping the FM9 can at least make these print houses happy by giving true 4-color or 2-color output like the old FM 7.0 on the mac did. What I have seen is if I "save as" the PDF file comes out right as long as my setup is correct on my end. I now have a sample sent to my reliable printer, the one who never questions my jobs but just does the transformation for me, of a PDF created using FM9, setup for four-color, and acrobat distiller. We shall see. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swh...@alamark.com On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > Howard, > > Let's just say first that there is a lot of confusion about how to > deal with > RGB channels in "print <nearly> ready" pdfs. But you say you are > able to > output separations (two plates, I take it from your description - > one spot and > one black) so the plate makers should be able to convert any RGB to > black in > both separations. > > Howard Rauch wrote: >> >> Over the past several years, we have done 5 or 6 major documents >> and have had >> a problem with RGB color in each one. A printing house sees us >> coming and >> tries to go into a hiding because the original was a FM document. > > Then choose a different supplier. They obviously don't want the work. > >> >> We are currently finishing up another catalog (document) and have >> sent sample >> pages to the graphics house. The response is that the FM sample >> pages have >> "RGB channels" and are not suitable for offset printing. > > As above. But there is no such thing as an "RGB channel". RGB is three > channels, one for Red, one for Green, and one for Blue. An > application may > handle the three of them together for the sake of expediency. > >> The graphics house >> has now recommended that we use PhotoShop to set up a gray-scale >> channel for >> the spot color and import the gray-scale document into FM. > > If you are talking about an image that is in greyscale and if people > are > getting toey about it then save it as an eps or pdf and use that > with the spot > colour defined. When it is separated that spot colour will be > retained as a > separated plate. > >> My questions are these: >> - Is there a workaround, plug-in, or something that will enable me >> to get rid >> of the "RGB channels" and still allow me to use the spot color in >> Frame? > > As above. Prepress software is has been capable of converting RGB to > spot or > CMYK values for at least 10 years. This is not new technology. It is > not > something you need to do, it is handled by the prepress operator. > >> - Would FM9 or the new FM Graphics Suite solve the RGB/spot color >> problem? >> > > The word on the street is that it does, but only if you export to or > save as > pdf. Not if you print. Others will correct me if I am wrong. > > Alan > > -- > Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as swh...@alamark.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.