Thanks, Dov, Let me clarify:
I have an EPS file that has content without a background. It's an irregularly shaped object (a monitor). When I place the EPS image on a background (png), it appears as desired when I do Save As PDF. If I PDF the same file by printing to the PDF printer, the irregularly shaped object is appears in a white rectangle, spoiling the effect. I was quite happy with Save As PDF, even though people say they have trouble with it. If I could figure out why it suddenly started turning my cross-references into gibberish, I would stick with it. I realize there should be no difference between the two methods. However, I have run these PDFs over and over again on the same files. I have used the same set of job options both with the Print to PDF and the Save As PDF. I was systematic and recorded the results in a notebook. I am not making this up! I understand that you don't find the word "transparent" to be precise. I don't know what other word to use. Jenny On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Dov Isaacs wrote: > Jenny, > > PostScript does NOT in any way support transparency. It is not part of > the PostScript imaging model. EPS is PostScript. There is no > "transparency" > in EPS because there is no transparency in PostScript. > > Perhaps you are referring to content without a background? That is not > transparency. Or perhaps you are referring to an image with a clipping > path such that some arbitrary shape of an image is on top of a clear > background? Again, that is not transparency. > > I am not trying to quibble here, but make sure that we are all using > the > same terminology. Conventional graphic arts terminology for > "transparent" > is to describe all non-opaque objects (which quite frankly, should > really > have been described as "translucent" - but I'm a dumb engineer, not an > English major and those who came up with the term "transparent" to > describe > non-opaque objects were probably not English majors either!). > > In terms of clipping paths or clear backgrounds behind either text > or vector > objects, there should be no difference whatsoever between creating > PDF via > "save as" or via printing to the "Adobe PDF" PostScript printer > driver instance > since in both cases, the EPS content is sent through into the output > PostScript > stream unmodified. > > - Dov > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jenny Greenleaf [mailto:jgreenl...@mac.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:00 PM >> To: Dov Isaacs >> Subject: Re: PDF headaches >> >> FrameMaker 9.0 will handle a graphic in EPS that has a transparent >> background. Really! >> >> Jenny >> >> >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Dov Isaacs wrote: >> >>> What do YOU mean by transparency? If you are talking about support >>> for non-opaque >>> objects, then with FrameMaker you are plain out of luck. >>> FrameMaker's imaging model, >>> unlike that of InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop, does not >>> support anything other >>> than opaque objects. Or do you mean something totally different?!? >>> >>> - Dov >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com >>>> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com >>>> ] On Behalf Of >>>> Jenny Greenleaf >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:54 PM >>>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >>>> Subject: PDF headaches >>>> >>>> FrameMaker 9.0 (all patches installed) >>>> Running in a Windows XP VM on a recent MacBook Pro (4 GB) >>>> Adobe Acrobat Pro Extended 9 >>>> No additional external Frame tools or plugins >>>> >>>> I am having trouble PDF'ing my book and hope you can help. I am not >>>> an >>>> expert in either of these tools. >>>> >>>> When I print to the Adobe PDF printer, I do not get the >>>> transparency I >>>> need for the cover graphic. >>>> When I use Save As PDF, I get the transparency, but the first >>>> cross- >>>> reference in the mini-TOC at the beginning of each chapter is >>>> gibberish (random characters). >>>> >>>> I have tried both of these with Standard options and High-Quality >>>> print options, as well as a set of options that embeds the >>>> corporate >>>> font. >>>> >>>> If I have to, I can PDF the cover separately, but I would rather >>>> not. >>>> >>>> Any clues? Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> Jenny >>>> Greenleaf Agency, LLC >>>> Portland, OR > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jgreenl...@mac.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jgreenleaf%40mac.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.