Hi, 

Thanks for the puretext tool, that is sweet and simple. Fred is right that it 
doesn't do special characters, variables, or xrefs, but those are only 5% of my 
cases. 

A FrameScript would be nice, but then I have to buy FrameScript, and that hurts 
for something that should be in the product. Pasting the character formatting 
before cutting is just too convoluted, but it did give me an idea. I didn't 
think I could use keyboard shortcuts on the Paste Special dialog, but it turns 
out you can. 

Use either Alt-e, s or Orly's Ctrl-Shift-v to get the Paste Special dialog, 
then type t to select Text, and Enter will do the paste special as plain text. 
Still not perfect, but like I said, works in 95% of the cases for me. 

For the times I have special characters, variables, or xrefs in my pasted text, 
I'll still do a plain Ctrl-v to Paste, select the text (Ctrl-Shift-arrow seems 
to be the fastest) and apply Default P Formatting. For that, I can still do F8, 
Enter with Frame8. 

Thanks, 

Andy 

----- "Fred Ridder" <docu...@hotmail.com> wrote: 


PureText is a useful tool, and I have it installed on my system. But it must be 
pointed out that in addiition to stripping out undesired character formatting, 
PureText also converts cross-references and references to variables into plain 
text, which is *not* what Andy wants to do. 

I still think that a simple FrameScript that auotmatically invokes Defaut Para 
Font immediately after pasting the content would be the best solution. 

But there is also another approach that may be useful, which deals with the 
formatting in advance of making the cut. If you have the insertion point in the 
destination paragraph (or any paragraph that is formatted like it) use 
Edit>Copy Special>Character Formatting (Alt,e,o,c) to capture the desired 
formatting for the text's new location. Then select the content to be moved and 
press Ctrl+v to apply that formatting. Then press Ctrl+x to cut the formatted 
selection, and Ctrl+v to paste it into the new location just like you normally 
would. If you find that the Alt,e,o,c key sequence is too onerous, it's not 
difficult to edit the command configuration file to add a more convenient 
keyboard shortcut for that command. (See the Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf 
file in the Documents directory of the FrameMaker installation for details.) 

-Fred Ridder 

> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:57:00 -0500 
> From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
> Subject: Re: Inheriting formats when pasting 
> 
> On 26/11/2010 12:54 PM, Andy Kass wrote: 
> > Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, 
> > 
> > Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me 
> > for some time. 
> > 
> > When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any 
> > other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it 
> > along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. 
> .... 
> > Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 
> > behave differently? 
> > 
> 
> I use this very handy utility http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/ 
> with the keyboard shortcut of WindowsLogoKey + v to strip formatting 
> from the clipboard and paste as text whenever required. Regular Ctrl + 
> v continues to work as always. 
> 
> HTH, 
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Rogers 
> Technical Communicator 
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited 
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 
> Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 

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