I think TSC4 should have INCLUDED Illustrator, not replaced Photoshop--but then, Adobe didn't ask me...
In my experience, more users will benefit more from AI, than PS. Screen captures are mostly processed in SnagIt or similar program, making PS overkill for those images. For image editing, Photoshop Elements is surprisingly full-featured compared with its cost. Most users are fine with RGB images (an RGB PDF can be converted to CMYK in Acrobat Pro if necessary). Luckily, TCS3 users can leave PS installed. As far as bugs go, Suites are a marketing tool and are released on a pre-determined schedule. If one program is holding up the Suite, then the software is often released with known bugs or features are left out until the next upgrade. Just a fact of life for software users, especially Adobe's. However, bug fixes eventually do happen--obviously, not as fast for someone stung by a bug, but they do happen. Another unfortunate fact of life is that when a new version comes out (expect TCS4.5 if the rumored Acrobat 11 comes out), bug fixes often stop for older versions of the software. So if Frame 11.5 comes out, I wouldn't expect too many major updates for 11. I like Suites for the cost savings, but dislike them for the "get it out the door even if it's not ready" approach. New Frame versions always take a while to pick up steam. Many government agencies are still using Frame 7. David Creamer IDEAS Training http://www.ideastraining.com Adobe Authorized Instructor & Certified Expert since 1995 Authorized Frame Consultant since 1991 **************** I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying TCS4, especially if you are a first-time buyer. TCS4 does not include Photoshop, whereas TCS2 does, or did. I must confess that I find it odd that Adobe and not a single reviewer has mentioned this. If you are a student, it would be better to buy TCS2, even though Adobe has stopped support for this product. To sum up. Framemaker 11 has been upgraded for structured documentation not unstructured. 1. One cannot print a book in unstructured FM11. 2. Forget about online support. 3. Do without Photoshop. 4. Forget about timely patches As a user of many programs over the years, what I see here is a drastic cutting down of FrameMaker Perhaps the FrameMaker accountants are fighting with the programmers and engineers. Less is more. I believe that FM is a great product, but the writing is on the wall. The view from Norton: Few users: slightly unstable. _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.