I have several frame docs with landscape master pages, and I don't have to rotate the pages to edit the text. (I'm assuming you want the text to run along the long edge of the paper?) What I do:

1. Add a new master page
2. Use Format > Customize Layout > Rotate Page {clockwise or counter-clockwise}
3. Add the text frames.

The main frame should be left as is, the header and footer frames should be rotated.

You can then apply this master page like any other.

The one trick is that for some reason, Frame leaves the original portrait text frame on the page even after the master page has been applied. You have to fiddle around to select it and delete it and make sure your text goes into the landscape text frame. (If both frames are the same size, it's hard to tell which is which, which is why I said "fiddle") If you apply the landscape master page to multiple existing pages, you'll have to do that to all of them. If you are adding new content, you just have to do it to the first; new pages will use the correct text frame.

I've got Framemaker 9 but I've done this since Frame 5.

If I've misunderstood your problem, sorry.

Anne



On 10/16/2013 8:40 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:

Thanks for the advice, everyone, but with the help of Klaus Mueller, I got the shortcut keys I’m looking for. Here’s a copy of part of the email he sent me:

 

    Generally, you can find the default shortcuts for FM commands in the config
files "\fminit\configui\cmds.cfg" or "\fminit\configui\wincmds.cfg".

    The shortcuts for those 2 commands are (in English FM versions):

    Graphics:
• Rotate 90 Degrees Clockwise: Esc g+
• Rotate 90 Degrees Counterclockwise: Esc g-

    Page:
Rotate Page Clockwise: Esc pO
Rotate Page Counterclockwise: Esc po

 

He’s got a FrameScript script called “Report Commands” that generates a list of shortcut definitions for whatever FrameMaker you have installed, so if you have custom ones, it’ll list those, too.

 

I tried the rotate page ones and they work.

 

Fei Min

From: Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:35 PM
To: Fei Min Lorente; Framers
Subject: RE: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise

 

Hello Fei Min,

you are probably right with presuming that there is no way to apply the "rotate page" command to more that just the actual page.
I could not find any hint about this.

Of course you could: Remap the command to a different, shorter shortcut. Or: Add the command to a menu.
All this would not solve your problem, I think.

 

a)
One way would be to write a short program (e.g. with framescript or with Extendscript) that lets you enter the relevant pages and either rotates them this way or back.
(Unfortunately I am no help in writing this tool.)

b)
I thing the best approach is to work with a rotated master page, as was already mentioned:

You should define one new master page with landscape orientation and a main text frame in it in the appropriate size, in a comfortable view for editing. It is not necessary to add headers and footers unless these were also continuous textflows. Nor is it necessary to create different left and right pages, as you would only use the page temporariliy.

As you are obviously working with structured applications, this new page should be applied to your template, so that it becomes available in each document that you generate.

This done, you can apply the master page to the page range where the index is located with a single command (in the master page menu). Then you would edit the content. The you would reapply the master pages that are intended to be used here. Probably you have to distinguish between right and left pages, so this time you would need two actions to get back to the original format.

And thats it...

c)
Other solutions are:
-- You could use a screen that can be rotated... I have one, but with a configuration like this (screen rotated, content editable but not *really* rotated), it takes some skill to move the cursor, either with a mouse or with the arrow keys...

-- Or you could use the landscape orientation page as a standard for your index pages and not the 8x11 inch portrait master pages.
Depending on what the purpose is, you may then e.g. simply rotate the pages in the final PDF as the very last step. This would also be helpful for reviewing the content meanwhile in the PDF. In Acrobat, the rotation is only one single command for a page range.

Best regards -

Tino H. Haida, Berlin

 

Fei Min Lorente:

Oh, I see the confusion. Okay, I have an 8.5 x 11 book, so all the pages are the same size. For this appendix, the first couple of pages and the last page are normal portrait. The tables in between these pages are rotated so that the top is always at the left and the bottom is always at the right, but the header and footer are still at the top and bottom edges (short sides of the page). The master pages are applied by a structured master page map which triggers on an attribute value.
 
If there is a quick, easily reversible way to rotate all the pages so I can edit them, then rotate them all back, I'd be okay with that too. They are contiguous. But I tried selecting all the pages and it only lets me highlight one at a time. Maybe messing with the master page is the best option?
 
Fei Min
 
-----Original Message-----
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:32 PM
To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise
 
Maybe I don't understand what you're trying to do. I thought you meant landscape pages.
 
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Fei Min Lorente <feimin.lore...@onsemi.com> wrote:

I did. So they're showing up sideways, but I can't edit them that way. Do you mean unrotate the master pages and apply them temporarily so I can edit? Fei Min -----Original Message----- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 3:36 PM To: Fei Min Lorente; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Shortcut keys for rotate clockwise/counter-clockwise Instead of manually rotating pages, you should define a rotated master page.



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