All, I stand corrected! I'm guessing my mistake in this was with the computers themselves and NOT the operating systems. I thought that Classic was also tied to the OS as well as the computer. Apparently, it's only tied to the computer. I believe that the last round of G4s and the G5s didn't allow dual-booting into OS 9 as well as OS X. I wasn't aware that Tiger still allowed a Classic environment. I recently bought a new Mac Pro desktop, Intel-based, so this knowledge doesn't help me any in my home situation, but it's still nice to know! Thanks much, everyone, for their input and on setting me straight on this!
Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 -----Original Message----- From: Michael O'Neill [mailto:mone...@meta-comm.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 5:35 PM To: Sam Beard; swhite at alamark.com Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger I'm running this on a Mac Mini with a G4 proc. It's been a long time since I set it up, but as best as I can remember, I installed the Classic environment as part of the initial setup and configuration of Tiger. This required the use of a "Classic" environment disk (again, if I remember correctly). When I try to open a Classic (OS9) application, the Classic environment opens automatically within OS X and the application I originally tried to open runs within this. I don't boot to Classic or do any dual booting shenanigans. In the System Preferences, there is a "Classic" icon under "System" that allows me to set various Classic options, including starting when logging in, warning before starting Classic, various memory usage settings for Classic, and more. OS 9/Classic does NOT appear as an option when under Startup Disk preferences. Sorry I can't provide too many details. It's been a long time since I initially set it up and I use Classic less and less frequently every week that passes. At least I know that in at least my circumstance, Classic does work on Tiger. -Michael -----Original Message----- From: Sam Beard [mailto:sam.be...@ctes.com] Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 4:49 PM To: Michael O'Neill; swhite at alamark.com Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Michael and Scott, This is intriguing to me. My understanding was that Classic, and therefore OS 9, wouldn't run on any of the later machines, particularly any Intel-based machines. Are either of you running one of these? What machines are you running? Are you running OS 9 in emulation of some sort or as a stand-alone OS, that you can choose upon start-up? In other words, more details, please! ;-P Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 Scott White wrote: We run Tiger and you have to take an OS9 disc and load it as well. However, the Macs that run both windows and OS10 run Frame for the PC just fine. We are using it here. FYI. And Michael O'Neill wrote: For what it's worth: I'm running 10.4.8 and still using some classic applications. When setting up the Mac, I had to install the Classic environment as well. -Michael -----Original Message----- From: framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm....@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+moneill=meta-comm.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sam Beard Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 3:03 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Ann, As far as I'm aware, Tiger does NOT support OS 9 in any form. Mac OS X up to somewhere around 10.3 or so WOULD run OS 9 apps in, basically, emulation form in what was known as Classic. However, OS X 10.4 dropped that provision, as far as I know. But, then again, if an Apple rep told you this, it might be true. Was the rep one of the sales phone reps or a tech support rep, either at an Apple store or via the phone support? If there's an Apple store near you, you might consider dropping in there and asking them about your situation. The people staffing Apple's genius bar are pretty knowledgeable and, usually, more than willing to help out, and NOT just because that's what they get paid for, either! Sam Beard Technical Communications - Special Projects CTES - LP 936 521-2241 -----Original Message----- From: framers-bounces+sam.beard=ctes....@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+sam.beard=ctes.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ann Zdunczyk Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:48 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com Subject: OS 9 Applications on Tiger Hi All, I have a G5 running Panther that I purchased several years ago. A purchased an upgrade for one of my applications and it requires OS 10.4 (Tiger) to run. I was told by the Apple rep that Tiger would run my OS 9 applications on this machine just fine. Since I do not have the New Mac technology, which I understand will not run OS 9 appications, I should be OK. So I am asking the people on this list that work on Macs if there are any problems that they have running into running OS 9 applications with Tiger. I know you all will tell me the UNVARNISHED truth rather than a rep trying to sell me the software. So please let me know of any problems that you have run into with Tiger. Thanks All Z ****************************************************************** Ann Zdunczyk President a2z Publishing, Inc. Language Layout & Translation Consulting Phone: (336)922-1271 Fax: (336)922-4980 Cell: (336)456-4493 http://www.a2z-pub.com ****************************************************************** _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to Framers as sam.beard at ctes.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. 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