I'm not sure the situation is as grim as you think. I think the 2-page spread approach gets you most of the way there.
It should be quite easy to prepare English-only or translation- only versions very by importing the appropriate flow into a conventional, single-page template. (Remember that the File>Import>File operation imports on a flow-by-flow basis, so you can import the two languages into new container documents separately.) And if you really need to print a side-by-side version, most print vendors should be able to handle the imposition required to produce page signatures from a PDF that contains 2-page spreads. The one thing you might want to do to make it easier to verify that the imposition is correct is to number use the same number but a different language suffix on the left-hand and right hand pages (e.g. 2-F on the left-nand page and 2-E on the right-hand, English page) of each 2-page spread. But I freely admit that I have never had to do this for real... -Fred Ridder >From: kevinf at dim.com >To: framers at frameusers.com >Subject: Re: Sequential page numbers on alternate pages >Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:01:33 -0600 (MDT) > >Hello, > >Yes, all good points I came to on my own in the last few days. The >stickiest part of all of this is any requirement for "special >impositioning tricks." XPress can manage two flows, one linked by hand, on >one wide page, and that system will work all right in translation, but the >pages require tricks to print. At least overriding right/left pages and >adding page numbers by hand results in standard print files. > >Thanks to all those who sent suggestions. It's sounding kind of grim. > >Kevin > > > > See my comments below, preceded by >>>>>>>>>> > > > > Peter Gold wrote: > >> This has been asked in various permutations and answered with a variety > >> of > >> suggested solutions, on one or another of the FrameMaker forums. A > >> Google > >> search for framemaker page numbering, or framemaker custom page > >> numbering, > >> should turn up one or more discussions. > >> > >> Usually one suggestion is to create a small flow-tagged master-page >text > >> frame on the master for the particular body page, Left, in this case, >to > >> hold page numbers. Then on the first left body page, tag the paragraph > >> marker in the text frame with a numbered format that's set to start at > >> top > >> of column, and press enter a lot of times to push numbers into all > >> existing > >> pages. > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't do this because you can't have references to > > "real" page numbers, as in cross-references, table of contents and > > index. Also, you'll need to set up two flows: one for the source > > language (A) and one for the target language (B). And you can't have > > flow A on the left master page and B on the right, they will get mixed > > up when FM adds pages. > >> On 9/3/07, Shmuel Wolfson <sbw at actcom.com> wrote: > >> > >>> If you could create a custom variable which calculates ((current page > >>> number + 1) / 2), that would do the trick. Does anyone know if this is > >>> possible? > >>> > >> > >> > >> Variables don't increment this way. > >> > >> If you create Flow A on the left pages and Flow B on the right pages, > >> > >>> can they have separate numbering? > >>> > >> > >> > >> No. But, because FM only can have one page number per spread, another > >> solution is to create a two-page wide layout, and use standard page > >> numbers > >> that display only on the "left page." You'd need to create a >master-page > >> text frame for Flow B, with Autoflow property for the "right page." > >> > > >>>>>>>>>> This will work better for the page numbers and references to > > the page numbers. 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