Hi Becky, I am not certain how you are going to have this processed in pre-press but in my experience with pre-press operators is that they really hate it when they have to delete and rebuild crop marks on multi-page pdfs. Especially if they are reflecting left/right page layouts.
The page shown onscreen in Framemaker (and different to page layout programs like InDesign that include the pasteboard) is the physical page that is enclosed by crop/trim marks. That means what you see on the page is that area that is bounded by the excess that will be chopped off when the page has been printed. Typically anything outside the page boundary will not exist when the job is done. If you are wanting to die-cut anything on a page you need to have that within the trim marks (on the physical page shown in FrameMaker) otherwise you are forcing the pre-press operator to create arbitrary trim marks for you. They may or may not be accurate because they were not created at the time that the document was and they will not have been created by the program that created the file was. That is why you received the earlier responses that you did. You need to consider creating a die-cut on your page master pages and put inside that the page elements you want on the finished printed page. The page dimensions would be the standard page size you are working with, say A4 (210mm x 297mm), plus the tab dimensions which would add an additional 15mm (at a guess). This would make your actual page size 225mm x 297mm. You would have two die-cut images that reflect each other for right and left pages, and of course however many die-cuts you have running down the page would necessitate additional image file pairs. If you are splitting this up into sections/chapters denoted by the die- cut tabs then each file would have a slightly different master page with a different die-cut image pair. The die-cut image files will have the same spot colour that is not used in the document. Do not use something like black, magenta, or cyan for it. The die-cut knife makers will need to be able to produce separations so they can program their machine that makes the knife (if it is automated) or produce accurate film output (if they are doing it by hand, which many do). HIH Alan On 17/10/2010, at 7:34 AM, Edmondson, Becky wrote: > OK, I figured this out. > > For those curious about what I'm doing: I am setting up pages for > die-cut tabs. The tabs extend beyond the trim lines of the page, > just like manila folder tabs. I need to get some text on those tabs, > which means I need to move a text box out there. > > Turns out you can position anything of any size off of the page, *as > long as one edge of its bounding box is on the page*. And Frame > makes it easy for you. Create an object (text box, filled object), > and press CTL-ALT to move it off the page. Frame will move it until > one edge is right at the page edge and no farther. > > Create a PDF with trim marks. You will see the object outside of the > page. > > The hard part is calculating how to position the text boxes. You > have to figure out the horizontal and vertical center of each tab, > then how big to make the text box to center it's middle on that point. > > Cheers, > Becky > > ***** All information contained in this email should be considered > confidential and proprietary. ***** > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Alan T Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz http://www.alphabyte.co.nz/beatrice