Maxwell Hoffman said:
> >Here, I used 2 years as a duration model. Although it would probably be 
> >longer and more expensive, since upgrades for FrameMaker don't seem to 
> >occur every year now. Else I would have gotten at least one - sigh - during 
> >my 2 years "license upgrade" contract that expired before FM 12 was released.

> Syed, FYI -- FrameMaker 12 is the third release to come out in approximately 
> an 18 month cycle. For those who are regular users of FrameMaker and who are 
> considering the subscription, take into account that you get a new full point 
> release at no extra charge, and with no SW maintenance fees. Overall, for 
> many people it does come out more economical.

Hmmm ... maybe for some people. For me, at least, the math does not work - but 
please do correct me if the calculations below are wrong!

Using an 18 month model, the software subscription for FrameMaker is: 18 * 
29.99, which is $539.82.

An upgrade is $399 for that same upgrade in that 18 month period, right? And 
then the license is perpetual (at least until Adobe abandons this model in the 
future entirely), so that version keep working once somebody stops upgrading 
(not so in the subscription case when cancelled).

And, for my single license case, since Adobe will not allow me to get the 
software upgrade license anyway, there is no extra SW maintenance fee anyway 
(although I would think that the volume license holders who are allowed to get 
the upgrade license maintenance, would not be paying the $399 fee to upgrade, 
so it is even lower than the subscription model fee for them).

My intuition says that Adobe will only get _new_ FrameMaker sign-ups, and from 
some people who use versions _prior_ to 10 and do not want to pay the full $999 
to "upgrade", for the subscription model.

So, to me, the cost for people currently on version 11 does not seem to be 
lower to switch - again, please correct me if my math is wrong here.

Z

-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 4:22 PM
To: Robert Lauriston; Framers
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 12 released


I don't plan to do the subscription model for FrameMaker 12 either. It does not 
make sense for me - even if I were continuing with FrameMaker.

It only makes _some_ sense for new users of FrameMaker, or folks still on 
versions _prior_ to version 10, where the "upgrade" cost of $999 is the same as 
full price.

For example, after two years, the cost (24 * $29.99 = $719.76) is _much_ higher 
than the cost of a single upgrade to FM 12 from FM 11. And, after three years, 
it would be more than the list price of a full license.

Here, I used 2 years as a duration model. Although it would probably be longer 
and more expensive, since upgrades for FrameMaker don't seem to occur every 
year now. Else I would have gotten at least one - sigh - during my 2 years 
"license upgrade" contract that expired before FM 12 was released.

Z

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