I'll second that recommendation for Rick's Table Cleaner. I couldn't manage 
without it.

Keith

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 9:14 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Rick Quatro; 'Steve Rickaby'; 
'Craig Ede'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard?

Are either of you using Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug-in? At my last employer 
about a decade ago (my, how time files when you're having fun...) I converted 
well over 10K pages of legacy Word documentation to FrameMaker and I know I 
could never have done it without Rick's plug-in. It got rid of all sorts of 
Word-specific cruft and dealt with the way Frame imported every Word table with 
the "custom ruling and shading" flag set so that you wouldn't get the expected 
results when you applied a Frame table style. And it did it all in a single 
step.

-Fred Ridder
> From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
> To: rick at rickquatro.com; srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk; craigede at 
> hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:51:26 -0800
> Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard?
>
> Rick Quatro said:
> > The FrameMaker Word import filter leaves a line-feed character at the end 
> > of each paragraph. You can't see it, but it is there and apparently affects 
> > your search. I routinely strip them out in my scripts. A MIF-wash should 
> > remove them.
>
> I have seen exactly this too. But, as I recall, a MIF-wash did not clear it 
> up for me ... have not checked recently though.
>
> If the file was not too large and I had a bit of time for initial cleanup, my 
> usual method was to bring it in as text and re-apply what FrameMaker 
> paragraph and character formats I needed.
>
> A slow process (would take me a day or two for around less than 100 page 
> documents), but resulted in cleaner FM files ultimately. Also gave me a 
> chance to read the document and verify what I wanted it to say and look like. 
> :)
>
> Z
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com>
> [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com]<mailto:[mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com]> On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 10:26 AM
> To: Craig Ede; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at 
> lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: RE: End-of-flow wildcard?
>
> At 09:07 -0600 19/1/14, Craig Ede wrote:
>
> >Hmmm, I know I used it for searches in that version. Let me look into it on 
> >my old laptop.
> >
> >For FM 10 it's \f. Wildcards don't have to be on.
>
> This is getting more interesting. \f does work in FrameMaker 7, but it only 
> finds some instances of the '.\f' combo I'm trying to find.
>
> However - and it's a big 'however' - the source came from Word, and the 
> instances of '.\f' that FrameMaker *is* finding are those I've typed, but not 
> those that came from Word. My guess is that - for the Word-sourced material - 
> what looks like a period/end of flow on screen is something else, and/or has 
> some invisible Word-type-crud after the period but before the end of the 
> flow. And copying them from the document to the Find field doesn't work 
> either: copy/pasting the period alone works, but doesn't work when '\f'
> is added to the find string.
>
> Probably the best way to sort this is to de-table the lot, MIF-wash it and 
> re-table it all again, but it's Sunday...
>
> So the bottom line is that '\f' is what I was looking for - the Word crud is 
> my problem. So double thanks ;-)
>
> --
> Steve
>
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