Robert, For another viewpoint, Adobe was just named in the top 100 companies to work for by Fortune. Our 2013 revenues considerably exceeded projections. So "somebody" out there is happy with Adobe. ;-)
Maxwell Hoffmann |? Product? Evangelist? |? Adobe? |? p. 503.336.5952? |? c. 503.805.3719? |? mhoffman at adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann -? http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann? blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI Recorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J -----Original Message----- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:57 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Adobe pricing policies (was: FrameMaker 12 released) It may seem like contempt, but I think they're just clueless. They have a lot of products that have been mature for a long time, so they have little to offer users to justify upgrading. They have a lot of employees with stale skill sets and it's not a company where someone with top skills would want to work. I overheard a conversation in a restaurant in which an Adobe employee was talking about how it was a great place to be while she figured out what to do next in her career because they were paying her $150K and she didn't really have to do anything. Maybe they're not even clueless. In 2013, per SEC filings, Adobe insiders sold 9 million shares and bought 5,000. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:38 AM, D L Reynolds <reynolds at semicool.com> wrote: > Adobe now seems contemptuous of its users. It's all about what works for > them, users be damned. Very disappointing. _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to framers as mhoffman at adobe.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mhoffman%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.