Hi Karen,

I can only confirm what Tino said: ć is not part of HelveticaNeueLTStd.
Check for example here to see the available characters in this font:
https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/adobe/helvetica-neue/

The Windows character palette shows also characters which are _not_
in a particular font.
Use another tool like the free font browser BabelMap. It also has
some font analysis tools which show all available characters of a certain
font.
I just saw that the developers of BabelMap do not provide a download
until Unicode 9 is out.
http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelMap.html
However, if you search for BabelMap you will find other sites from
which you can download it.

Best regards

Winfried

-----Original Message-----
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint....@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Tino H. Haida
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 4:10 AM
To: Karen Robbins
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Unusual C-Acute Accent

Hi Karen,

I checked with FM 2015 on PC:
The glyph palette shows more characters, that is true, but only
characters that really are part of the font have a correct wysiwyg
preview.
If you click on the "ć", a question mark is shown in the text, which is
the expected result.

As far as I can tell, you should "upgrade" the Helvetica font... It will
be a little bit more expensive, but it is the best way to have a
consistent design throughout all different languages.

Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin

Karen Robbins:

> Hi Tino,
>
> Hm, that's interesting. On the Mac side, it does contain all the glyphs. And 
> in the FM Character Palette, it looks like they are there as well (definitely 
> NOT there for the basic Helvetica, in contrast).
>
> I'll look into another (Pro) version for the PC side. Would be a help with 
> Greek characters, too--I already had to add a special font for those.
>
> Thanks!
> --Karen
>
> At 2:55 AM +0200 6/23/16, Tino H. Haida wrote: Hi Karen,
>
> the Std-font contains only the standard latin (western) characters.
>
> You would need the Pro-version of this Helvetica font (=latin extended, with 
> Central European characters) oder the WGL4 font (includes also Baltic, Greek 
> and Cyrillic characters).
>
> Pls refer to the website of a font vendor like Linotype.
>
> Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin
>
> Karen Robbins:
>
> Actually, I spoke too soon. It does work for some fonts (e.g., Garamond), but 
> not others--including HelveticaNeueLT Std, the one I need. It should have all 
> the characters and glyphs that exist.
>
> K
>
> At 8:41 PM +0000 6/22/16, Craig, Alison wrote:
>
> I don't know how to do it with the keyboard, but it's easy to do using File > 
> Utilities > Character Palette (FM 12).
>
> Select the font you want (eg, Arial) and go through the palette until you 
> find "ç".
>
> Alison
>
> Technical Documentation Specialist
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>  | <>bkultrasound.com
>
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:<mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound....@lists.frameusers.com>framers-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound....@lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Karen Robbins
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:57 PM
> To: <mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Unusual C-Acute Accent
>
> I am trying to keyboard an acute accent over the letter C (as in the name
> Mi"iç), which can be done on a Mac and in HTML but apparently not in Frame
> on the PC. Alt+0263 doesn't work. A colleague with a versions-old FM quick
> reference card says it confirms that couldn't be done (at least at that
> version). Still true for v11 and forward?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Karen

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