Tammy figured it out -
https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker-discussions/embedding-fonts-used-in-fm-source-files-to-produce-pdf/m-p/14689708#M84179
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HI Tami,
So, I've run into other types of crazy issues too in the past too, maybe,
somehow similar....
Did you try one of these solutions: (There's not really any reason these should
work, but, anyway....)
- InFM2022 From the File>Print Setup (when using Adobe PDF as
Printer)>Properties...
Uncheck: Rely on system fonts, do not use document fonts
- For the para styles that you're using - where you fonts get messed up, make
sure that for their Para Designer under the "Asian" tab, you uncheck "Use Asian
Composer".
Adobe once helped me solve a similar problem by discovering this was checked -
it messed up my files .
These 2 things are always the first thing I check when things start going wrong.
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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 14:39:28 +0000
From: Tammy Van Boening <[email protected]>
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Subject: [Framers] Embedded fonts issue when producing PDF
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I am banging my head against a brick wall here, and Adobe is trying to figure
out what is going on as well, but I thought that I would post to the list to
see if anyone has run into the same issue:
I have Windows 11, 64 bit and have Framemaker 2019 installed and updated to
date for the last version available. I have Adobe Acrobat Pro 2020 also
installed and updated to the latest version available. I have the Roboto Font
Family installed in C:\Windows\Fonts. I have confirmed that all the fonts are
properly installed. They are the Open Type fonts available from Google that I
received from a client (and they from Google) and these are the exact same
fonts that are available from
https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/roboto___.YXAzOmpvbmFzY29ycG9yYXRlOmE6bzozZjU1YjgxMDlkNDNmYWVjYjZkN2QzMDE0NTMxODU2YTo2OjZiMmU6NjNjYjMxMzQ2MGQ4OGQ3YWJlZGJlZTI5OTY5OTRlMTNmNDg4YzMwYjcxMjYwYzNjNjVjZjc2ZWVhMjE0MTY4MzpwOlQ.
(In fact, there is even the disclaimer for these fonts on the Adobe site that
they are from Google.)
In Framemaker, when I am setting up my template and creating the necessary
paragraph tags, all the installed Roboto font families are available on the
Font tab in the Paragraph Designer and all the available variations w/in these
families (Bold, Italic) are available as options, so all is working correctly
in Framemaker 2019.
I always use the Publishing option in Framemaker to produce my PDFs. However,
I always create a custom settings/job options file that stipulates the fonts
that I want to embed for a specific template/client. (It's the standard
procedure to do so, but for reference, see
https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-how-to-edit-the-pdf-preset-list/___.YXAzOmpvbmFzY29ycG9yYXRlOmE6bzozZjU1YjgxMDlkNDNmYWVjYjZkN2QzMDE0NTMxODU2YTo2OjNkZjc6YWFkNWY3OWMyM2FiZjZiODQ4MzI5ZjhjYjE3NGRiNGNmYTNlYTAzOGMyNDA3YmQwMTZkYjhjYzI2M2Q2NTUzYjpwOlQ.)
When I am creating the custom job options file in Distiller 2020, this is
where I run into the issue: Adobe Distiller is NOT recognizing all the
installed Roboto fonts. In the Fonts source list, C:\Windows\Fonts, only a
very small subset of all the installed Roboto fonts are available for
selection. And it appears to be helter skelter as to which fonts are available
for embedding and which are not. For example, none of the Roboto Thin
variations and none of the Roboto Light variations are available, Roboto Black
is available, but not Roboto Black Italic and yet all the variations of the
Roboto Condensed (Bold, Italic, etc. ) are. And for reference,
https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://helpx.adobe.com/fonts/kb/fonts-not-showing-in-the-menu.html___.YXAzOmpvbmFzY29ycG9yYXRlOmE6bzozZjU1YjgxMDlkNDNmYWVjYjZkN2QzMDE0NTMxODU2YTo2OjY0Zjc6MzBkMGNkYjY1MGE5NTFiNzY0YWNmNThmM2VhYzY3OTkyNjBkYjMxYTVkYTc1NzFhMWRiNTI1ZTRjZmU5MTU1ZDpwOlQ,
none of these possible reasons is applicable and again, I ha
ve confirmed these reasons are not applicable with Adobe. Acrobat is simply
not recognizing these fonts and I cannot create the needed custom job options
file to properly embed the needed fonts in the final PDF
.
And I have confirmed emphatically with Adobe support that Framemaker 2019 and
Acrobat Pro 2020 do absolutely work and are supported on Windows 11. So far,
FM2019 is cooperating, but the even newer product Adobe Acrobat Pro is the one
giving me fits.
Thanks!
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc dot com
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Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2024 16:09:40 +0100
From: Simon BUCH <[email protected]>
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Hello Tammy,
From my experience, I have seen some cases where some font variants have
licensing restrictions, which can affect whether Acrobat Distiller can embed
the font in to the output.??? I have just downloaded the Roboto font family
from Google fonts, and they all appear to be TrueType fonts.
I recently had a technical case from one of my customers who was having quite
some trouble with TrueType fonts that were embeded in a PDF file, produced from
Illustrator.? We discovered that the production from Adobe FrameMaker had the
fonts /sometimes/ being mutated in to ugly looking fonts with some of the
background vectors being mutated in to blocky bitmap content.
My customer found that changing the "Adobe PDF" printer advanced settings on
the Adobe Illustrator creator's workstation solved the problem with the
exported PDF document, which was then laid-up in specific pages in FrameMaker,
and the output is now as intended :-)
but YMMV
Regards
/// Simon BUCH
\\\ Edinburgh, Scotland
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