Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: > -1 > > This is a fairly substantial (if subtle) change. As soon as you do this, > everyone who's got a custom view template that follows the conventions > (i.e. tons of third party products and custom content types) will start > to see the description twice. That's unacceptable and will require > everyone to rewrite.
Fair enough. > Turning a viewlet off for one type only is also a bit awkward. You end > up having to customise for the given context type with a viewlet that > renders nothing. Hmm hmm. Perhaps there is an abstraction or hook missing here. It's a shame the viewlet mechanism does not have an available flag like portlets do. Still, you could add that to the __call__ method. > I'd rather just advise people to hide the documentDescription div with > CSS if they want it gone site-wide, and to customise if they want it on > a per-template basis. It's way easier to customise a template and remove > or move a div than it is to find out where the damned viewlet came from. :) You'ld have to customize every view template for every content type in your site. That can be quite painful. For a site I'm working on now that would easily be over 20 separate templates. Creating/overriding a single viewlet is much simpler and much more maintainable. > To make this argument a bit more general - viewlet managers are > primarily slots in which generic UI can be plugged in. For example, if > you have a tagging solution and want to show a tag cloud for all > supported types, you could insert that as a viewlet without having to > customise every template. Ditto with the way Iterate displays messages > depending on whether the IWorkingCopy marker is set. I want something just as general. I want that bit of metadata (which the description really is, and if Plone didn't show it in so many places I would move it to a different fieldset as well) to go away from my content views everywhere. > An object's description is intimately tied to its schema. A "description > renderer" probably isn't a useful concept on its own. The decision on > whether and how to render the description is part of the view logic of > the object in question and should thus, IMHO, remain closely linked into > the view template, not indirected away to a place where it's harder to > manipulate. I just feel that the description is not part of the content. It is metadata: it describes what the object is about. As such it does not have business appearing in view templates, especially not in the way it does now. That is a mistake Plone made long ago, and something we should fix at some point. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. _______________________________________________ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team