Jordan Belson created effects for Donald Cammell's *Demon Seed *(1977) Not exactly low budget but could certainly be described as exploitation.
Yoko Ono appeared in Michael Findlay's *Satan's Bed *(1965) For more info on that unlikely collaboration see Joan Hawkins' *Cutting Edge: Art Horror and the Horrific Avant-garde, *University of Minnesota Press. Sounds like an interesting project/ line of inquiry. Guy On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 7:00 PM <frameworks-requ...@film-gallery.org> wrote: > Send Frameworks mailing list submissions to > frameworks@film-gallery.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > frameworks-requ...@film-gallery.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > frameworks-ow...@film-gallery.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Frameworks digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: film & envrionmentalism (William Basquin) > 2. Re: film & envrionmentalism (jjmartinod) > 3. 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Re: virages (Esther Laurent-Baroux) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: William Basquin <billbasq...@earthlink.net> > To: Matt Shaw <mshaw...@protonmail.com>, Experimental Film Discussion > List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2021 14:34:56 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film & envrionmentalism > > Hi Matt, > > > > I'm interested in talking to you about this. > > > > You also might be interested in looking into Robert Schaller's Wilderness > Filmmaking Trip in the Rockies - because of his methods in the field. > > > > -- Bill Basquin > > www.BillBasquin.info > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Shaw <mshaw...@protonmail.com>, Experimental Film Discussion > List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Sent: Nov 9, 2021 6:27 AM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Subject: [Frameworks] film & envrionmentalism > > > Dear Folks, > > I'm looking for discussion resources around the sustainability of filming, > cutting, and projecting on film. Preferably from filmmakers themselves who > have a commitment to environemtental stewardship in their own lives—or > whose work engages directly the more than human world. > > Writings, interviews, films that focus on other mediums could be helpful. > The personal concerns I'm thinking of would be wrestled with by artists > working in most mediums. > > So far, I have some eco-critical texts from an art history vantage point, > looking primarily at extraction colonialism. Hoping for more from tje > artists themselves. > > thank you always, > Matt > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: jjmartinod <jjmarti...@protonmail.com> > To: mshaw...@protonmail.com, frameworks@film-gallery.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2021 15:25:55 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film & envrionmentalism > I second that opinion on Robert's methods. > > > > - > > > Enviado desde ProtonMail móvil > > > > -------- Mensaje original -------- > On 9 de noviembre de 2021 9:34 a. m., William Basquin < > billbasq...@earthlink.net> escribió: > > > Hi Matt, > > > > I'm interested in talking to you about this. > > > > You also might be interested in looking into Robert Schaller's Wilderness > Filmmaking Trip in the Rockies - because of his methods in the field. > > > > -- Bill Basquin > > www.BillBasquin.info > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Shaw <mshaw...@protonmail.com>, Experimental Film Discussion > List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Sent: Nov 9, 2021 6:27 AM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Subject: [Frameworks] film & envrionmentalism > > > Dear Folks, > > I'm looking for discussion resources around the sustainability of filming, > cutting, and projecting on film. Preferably from filmmakers themselves who > have a commitment to environemtental stewardship in their own lives—or > whose work engages directly the more than human world. > > Writings, interviews, films that focus on other mediums could be helpful. > The personal concerns I'm thinking of would be wrestled with by artists > working in most mediums. > > So far, I have some eco-critical texts from an art history vantage point, > looking primarily at extraction colonialism. Hoping for more from tje > artists themselves. > > thank you always, > Matt > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Eric Theise <ericthe...@gmail.com> > To: fractopr...@gmail.com, Experimental Film Discussion List < > frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 08:23:12 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] You are now unsubscribed > I'm not the one who subscribed Frameworks to the Fracto list. > > I'm not the one who unsubscribed Frameworks from the Fracto list. > > But now that I'm aware there's a Fracto list, all the clicking and > infinite scrolling in the world doesn't seem to expose a link at > fractofilm.com where an individual can subscribe. Max? > > Eric > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: jared ashburn <ashburn.ja...@gmail.com> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 11:30:03 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] American avant-garde filmmakers and exploitation > OK, wow, this is great! Thank you for your replies--this is quite a list. > Does anyone know if this history has been written about? I thought of David > E. James and Paul Arthur and I looked at the chapter, "Narrating Los > Angeles: Art Films and Independent Features," in James' book on minor > cinemas in LA. He accounts, indirectly, for the point that David Sherman > has made here by discussing exploitation films that exploited the > counterculture and appropriated some styles, concepts, and techniques found > in the New American Cinema and European art cinema. The chapter is useful > for my research but I am looking for other articles that might address the > history of this overlap more explicitly. If you think of something, I am > all ears. Thank you, again, I am most appreciative. -JA > > List of American Avant-Garde filmmakers who also worked on low-budget, B > and exploitation feature films in the 1960s and 70s: > > *Pat O'Neil * > > *Curtis Harrington* > > *Nathaniel Dorsky* > > *Morgan Fisher* > > *Jerry Abrams* > > *Peggy Ahwesh* > > *Jerome Hiler* > > *Betzy Bromberg* > > *Hy Hirsh* > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:23 PM Marc Couroux <cour...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes! Fisher mentions Messiah of Evil, and shows a frame of it in Standard >> Gauge. >> M >> >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:01 PM Steve Polta <steve.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Off the top of my head: >>> >>> 1) Nathaniel Dorsky: *Revenge of the Cheerleaders* (1976)—he was either >>> director, co-writer, cinematographer or some combination, depending on whom >>> you ask. >>> 2) I've heard that Morgan Fisher was editor on *Messiah of Evil* (1973) >>> although he is not credited (he appears as an actor as well). >>> 3) Bay Area '60s filmmaker (who also did light shows) Jerry Abrams >>> directed an exploitation doc on Bay Area porn culture of the '70s; I can't >>> recall the title. >>> 4) Peggy Ahwesh worked on-set on some George Romero films but I don't >>> know the titles. >>> >>> There are surely lots more… >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM jared ashburn <ashburn.ja...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of any American avant-garde filmmakers who also worked >>>> on low-budget features, B or exploitation films in the late 60s and 70s? >>>> This could be in any area of production or post-production... >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Jared >>>> -- >>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >>>> >>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>> >>> -- >>> Frameworks mailing list >>> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >>> >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> @xenopraxis <https://twitter.com/xenopraxis> >> xenaudial <https://xenaudial.wordpress.com/> >> xenaudial (b/c) <https://xenaudial.bandcamp.com/> >> The Occulture <http://www.theocculture.net/> >> WKWYLF (vimeo) <https://vimeo.com/user9854186> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: John Sundholm <john.sundh...@ims.su.se> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 17:40:03 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] American avant-garde filmmakers and exploitation > One more: Carl Linder > > > 9 nov. 2021 kl. 18:31 skrev jared ashburn <ashburn.ja...@gmail.com>: > > OK, wow, this is great! Thank you for your replies--this is quite a list. > Does anyone know if this history has been written about? I thought of David > E. James and Paul Arthur and I looked at the chapter, "Narrating Los > Angeles: Art Films and Independent Features," in James' book on minor > cinemas in LA. He accounts, indirectly, for the point that David Sherman > has made here by discussing exploitation films that exploited the > counterculture and appropriated some styles, concepts, and techniques found > in the New American Cinema and European art cinema. The chapter is useful > for my research but I am looking for other articles that might address the > history of this overlap more explicitly. If you think of something, I am > all ears. Thank you, again, I am most appreciative. -JA > > List of American Avant-Garde filmmakers who also worked on low-budget, B > and exploitation feature films in the 1960s and 70s: > > *Pat O'Neil * > > *Curtis Harrington* > > *Nathaniel Dorsky* > > *Morgan Fisher* > > *Jerry Abrams* > > *Peggy Ahwesh* > > *Jerome Hiler* > > *Betzy Bromberg* > > *Hy Hirsh* > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:23 PM Marc Couroux <cour...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes! Fisher mentions Messiah of Evil, and shows a frame of it in Standard >> Gauge. >> M >> >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:01 PM Steve Polta <steve.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Off the top of my head: >>> >>> 1) Nathaniel Dorsky: *Revenge of the Cheerleaders* (1976)—he was either >>> director, co-writer, cinematographer or some combination, depending on whom >>> you ask. >>> 2) I've heard that Morgan Fisher was editor on *Messiah of Evil* (1973) >>> although he is not credited (he appears as an actor as well). >>> 3) Bay Area '60s filmmaker (who also did light shows) Jerry Abrams >>> directed an exploitation doc on Bay Area porn culture of the '70s; I can't >>> recall the title. >>> 4) Peggy Ahwesh worked on-set on some George Romero films but I don't >>> know the titles. >>> >>> There are surely lots more… >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM jared ashburn <ashburn.ja...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Does anyone know of any American avant-garde filmmakers who also worked >>>> on low-budget features, B or exploitation films in the late 60s and 70s? >>>> This could be in any area of production or post-production... >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Jared >>>> -- >>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >>>> >>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>> >>> -- >>> Frameworks mailing list >>> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >>> >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> @xenopraxis <https://twitter.com/xenopraxis> >> xenaudial <https://xenaudial.wordpress.com/> >> xenaudial (b/c) <https://xenaudial.bandcamp.com/> >> The Occulture <http://www.theocculture.net/> >> WKWYLF (vimeo) <https://vimeo.com/user9854186> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > -- > Frameworks mailing list > Frameworks@film-gallery.org > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Quentin Darcq <quentinda...@gmail.com> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 18:47:50 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] film & envrionmentalism > Some resources: > > > https://www-filmlabs-org.translate.goog/wiki/fr/ashes_plants_principles?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=nui > > https://www.filmlabs.org/wiki/fr/ashes_plants_principles > > http://www.handmadefilm.org/writings/emulsionThoughts.html > > > https://www.filmlabs.org/docs/J-Etudes-Rennes/04-Noelie_Martin_Emulsions_artisanales_et_ecofeminisme.mp3 > (in French) > > -- Quentin Darcq > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 3:37 PM William Basquin <billbasq...@earthlink.net> > wrote: > >> Hi Matt, >> >> >> >> I'm interested in talking to you about this. >> >> >> >> You also might be interested in looking into Robert Schaller's Wilderness >> Filmmaking Trip in the Rockies - because of his methods in the field. >> >> >> >> -- Bill Basquin >> >> www.BillBasquin.info >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Shaw <mshaw...@protonmail.com>, Experimental Film Discussion >> List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> >> Sent: Nov 9, 2021 6:27 AM >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> >> Subject: [Frameworks] film & envrionmentalism >> >> >> Dear Folks, >> >> I'm looking for discussion resources around the sustainability of >> filming, cutting, and projecting on film. Preferably from filmmakers >> themselves who have a commitment to environemtental stewardship in their >> own lives—or whose work engages directly the more than human world. >> >> Writings, interviews, films that focus on other mediums could be helpful. >> The personal concerns I'm thinking of would be wrestled with by artists >> working in most mediums. >> >> So far, I have some eco-critical texts from an art history vantage point, >> looking primarily at extraction colonialism. Hoping for more from tje >> artists themselves. >> >> thank you always, >> Matt >> >> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: jared ashburn <ashburn.ja...@gmail.com> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 11:58:19 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] American avant-garde filmmakers and exploitation > Excellent! Thank you, John. -JA > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:41 AM John Sundholm <john.sundh...@ims.su.se> > wrote: > >> One more: Carl Linder >> >> >> 9 nov. 2021 kl. 18:31 skrev jared ashburn <ashburn.ja...@gmail.com>: >> >> OK, wow, this is great! Thank you for your replies--this is quite a list. >> Does anyone know if this history has been written about? I thought of David >> E. James and Paul Arthur and I looked at the chapter, "Narrating Los >> Angeles: Art Films and Independent Features," in James' book on minor >> cinemas in LA. He accounts, indirectly, for the point that David Sherman >> has made here by discussing exploitation films that exploited the >> counterculture and appropriated some styles, concepts, and techniques found >> in the New American Cinema and European art cinema. The chapter is useful >> for my research but I am looking for other articles that might address the >> history of this overlap more explicitly. If you think of something, I am >> all ears. Thank you, again, I am most appreciative. -JA >> >> List of American Avant-Garde filmmakers who also worked on low-budget, B >> and exploitation feature films in the 1960s and 70s: >> >> *Pat O'Neil * >> >> *Curtis Harrington* >> >> *Nathaniel Dorsky* >> >> *Morgan Fisher* >> >> *Jerry Abrams* >> >> *Peggy Ahwesh* >> >> *Jerome Hiler* >> >> *Betzy Bromberg* >> >> *Hy Hirsh* >> >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:23 PM Marc Couroux <cour...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes! Fisher mentions Messiah of Evil, and shows a frame of it in >>> Standard Gauge. >>> M >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 5:01 PM Steve Polta <steve.po...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Off the top of my head: >>>> >>>> 1) Nathaniel Dorsky: *Revenge of the Cheerleaders* (1976)—he was >>>> either director, co-writer, cinematographer or some combination, depending >>>> on whom you ask. >>>> 2) I've heard that Morgan Fisher was editor on *Messiah of Evil* (1973) >>>> although he is not credited (he appears as an actor as well). >>>> 3) Bay Area '60s filmmaker (who also did light shows) Jerry Abrams >>>> directed an exploitation doc on Bay Area porn culture of the '70s; I can't >>>> recall the title. >>>> 4) Peggy Ahwesh worked on-set on some George Romero films but I don't >>>> know the titles. >>>> >>>> There are surely lots more… >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM jared ashburn <ashburn.ja...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know of any American avant-garde filmmakers who also >>>>> worked on low-budget features, B or exploitation films in the late 60s and >>>>> 70s? This could be in any area of production or post-production... >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Jared >>>>> -- >>>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>>> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >>>>> >>>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Frameworks mailing list >>>> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >>>> >>>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> @xenopraxis <https://twitter.com/xenopraxis> >>> xenaudial <https://xenaudial.wordpress.com/> >>> xenaudial (b/c) <https://xenaudial.bandcamp.com/> >>> The Occulture <http://www.theocculture.net/> >>> WKWYLF (vimeo) <https://vimeo.com/user9854186> >>> -- >>> Frameworks mailing list >>> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >>> >>> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >>> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> >> -- >> Frameworks mailing list >> Frameworks@film-gallery.org >> https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org >> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Esther Laurent-Baroux <estherlaurent-bar...@hotmail.fr> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 17:58:41 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] virages > Hi Pip, > > I come back to you concerning virages. > > Do you know where I can find informations about it, like some people who > show how to process it, or videos where you can see the result ? > > I searched on filmlabs.org but could'nt find anything. > > Cheers, > Esther. > > ------------------------------ > *De :* Frameworks <frameworks-boun...@film-gallery.org> de la part de > FrameWorks Admin <framewo...@re-voir.com> > *Envoyé :* vendredi 5 novembre 2021 04:55 > *À :* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@film-gallery.org> > *Objet :* Re: [Frameworks] virages > > Colorvir was great but it has been discontinued. You can now get Berg > toners: > https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=berg%20toner > > - Pip Chodorov > > > On Nov 5, 2021, at 2:16 AM, Esther Laurent-Baroux < > estherlaurent-bar...@hotmail.fr> wrote: > > > I was wondering where I can find some infos about virages for s8mm or 16mm. > > > -- > Frameworks mailing list > Frameworks@film-gallery.org > https://mail.film-gallery.org/mailman/listinfo/frameworks_film-gallery.org > >
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