The cameraman's revenge- ladislaw Starewicz.1912
The acrobatic fly- percy smith. 1910

And I also made many insect films,
I can contact you off list.

Thanks
Chen Sheinberg

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ב-19 בדצמ 2013, בשעה 22:25, Curtis Tamm <curtis.t...@gmail.com> כתב/ה:

> i am developing a list of experimental films about insects and islands, 
> please help contribute. 
> 
> thanks, 
> curtis 
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> Hi all,
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> Anyone out there knows if this is available in any way (print, dvd, link)?
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> Thanks in advance,
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> From: Sasha Janerus <sasha.jane...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] projector-less film loops
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> A good place to look would be the recent book Exhibiting Cinema in
> Contemporary Art by Erika Balsom.
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> 3.  
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> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Mary Stark <maryst...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
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> > Hi Rebecca,
> >
> > I have been working with 16mm film as installation using loops, fresnel
> > lenses and film as a sculptural material. If you are interested please look
> > at my website and blog
> > http://www.marystark.co.uk/
> > http://interwovenpractices.co.uk/
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Mary Stark
> >
> > Tel: 07828450979
> >
> >
> > On 17 Dec 2013, at 20:27, Jonathan Walley <wall...@denison.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Rebecca, et. al.,
> > >
> > > After re-reading your post, and reading Scott's response, it strikes me
> > that you may have been looking for information about early (e.g. silent,
> > "primitive?") film systems that involved viewing 16mm film without lens or
> > projector. Your use of the term "installation" made me assume expanded
> > cinema, film installation, etc., but then there's your reference to the
> > zoetrope, which suggests that you're looking for something further back in
> > history. Of course, the zoetrope did not use film of any kind. What's more,
> > 16mm film wasn't invented until 1923, by which time projection - with
> > lenses - was, of course, standard practice in film exhibition. I'm not
> > aware of any viewing systems for 16mm that don't employ at least lenses:
> > flatbed editors don't quite "project" the images, at least not in the same
> > way a projector does, and devices like Moviolas and Moviscopes don't
> > involve projection - the film image is simply magnified into a viewer, not
> > unlike the Kinetsoscope. But these systems are used to edit film reels, not
> > to show loops. And they all use lenses.
> > >
> > > Specifying your research project would be helpful - can we have a little
> > more detail?
> > > Jonathan
> > >
> > > Dr. Jonathan Walley
> > > Associate Professor
> > > Department of Cinema
> > > Denison University
> > > wall...@denison.edu
> > >
> > >
> > > On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, the first loop system was the Edison Kinetoscope but that was
> > 35mm..
> > >> --scott
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