On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:24 PM, elizabeth mcmahon <elizmcma...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Pip,
>
> I was kicked off of AMIA's listserv, too. This is the email I received.
> Yahoo is the culprit, though they will blame the administrators. BS! I have
> switched to gmail and so far, so good. Finger's crossed. If you search
> Yahoo's help section, you will find many pissed off people having the same
> problem with their Yahoo acct. Here was Yahoo's lame response (the first
> one is much longer, but this will suffice):
> i Elizabeth,
>
> Thank you for contacting Yahoo Mail.
>
> If the issue persists, the best solution is to contact the mail system
> administrator or postmaster of the listserv, with which you are
> experiencing the issue
>
> We recently changed our DMARC policy to proactively protect our users from
> increasing email spam that uses Yahoo users’ email addresses from other
> mail servers. This is an important step to secure our users’ email
> identities from being used by unauthorized senders. It also interferes with
> some long-standing uses of identities that are authorized by the user but
> not verifiable.
> By publishing a “p=reject” record, Yahoo tells other DMARC compliant
> systems to reject mail from Yahoo users that isn’t genuinely originated
> from a Yahoo server.
> Thank you again for contacting Yahoo Mail.
>
> Real helpful, huh? If you want the first one, I would be happy to send it.
> But basically Yahoo bounces all listserv emails now, for no discernible
> reason. Thanks Marissa Mayer.
>
> Elizabeth
>
>   ----- Forwarded Message -----
>  *From:* University of Kentucky LISTSERV Server (14.4) <
> lists...@lsv.uky.edu>
> *To:* Elizabeth Mcmahon <elizmcma...@yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:02 AM
> *Subject:* Your removal from the AMIA-L list
>
> Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:02:01
>
> You have been automatically removed  from the AMIA-L list (Association of
> Moving Image Archivists)  as a result of repeated  delivery error reports
> from your  mail system. This  decision was  based on the  automatic error
> monitoring policy  in effect for the  list, and has not  been reviewed or
> otherwise confirmed  by a human  being. If  you receive this  message, it
> means that  something is wrong: while  you are obviously able  to receive
> mail, your mail system has been regularly reporting that your account did
> not exist, or that you were otherwise permanently unable to receive mail.
> Here is some information which may assist  you or your local help desk in
> determining the cause of the problem:
>
> - The failing address is elizmcma...@yahoo.com.
>
> - The first error was reported on 2014-08-19.
>
> - Since then, a total of 3 delivery errors have been received.
>
> - The last  reported error was: 5.7.9 554 5.7.9  Message not accepted for
> policy reasons. See http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html
>
> PLEASE DO NOT  IGNORE THIS MESSAGE. While you can  of course re-subscribe
> to the list, it is important for  you to report this problem to your mail
> administrator so that  it can be solved. This problem  is not specific to
> the AMIA-L list, and also affects  your private mail. This means that YOU
> HAVE PROBABLY LOST  SOME PRIVATE MAIL AS WELL. Anyone  trying to write to
> you  during the  same time  frame will  probably have  received the  same
> errors for the same reason. The AMIA-L list is but one of the many people
> who  may  have  tried  to  write  to  you  while  your  mail  system  was
> malfunctioning.
>
> DO NOT LET TECHNICAL PEOPLE CONVINCE YOU THAT THIS IS NORMAL. It is never
> normal for a mail system to claim  that a valid, working account does not
> exist, just as it would not be  normal for the post office to return some
> of  your mail  with  "addressee  unknown" when  the  address was  written
> correctly.  It is  true that  some mail  systems are  less reliable  than
> others, and your technical people may be doing the best they can with the
> tools  they have.  But, ultimately,  the level  of service  that you  are
> receiving is the result of a  business decision, and not something due to
> a universal technical limitation that  one can only accept. Reliable mail
> systems do exist, and  it is ultimately up to you  to decide whether this
> level of service is acceptable or not.
>
>
>
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