I watch this list a lot, but I don't chime in very often. This, though, is a good reason.
On the subject of daylight spools, I have been fiddling with figuring out modeling and 3d printing one. It is possible, I just have to do it in spare moments between other demands. Cores and cartridges should be possible, too. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Dave Tetzlaff <[email protected]> wrote: > > The daylight spool issue is important. I always try to remember to ask > the lab to return them otherwise they keep them and sell them. > > > > I don't know how things are in the UK or US at present, but back in the > last decade when I was spooling off 400' cores onto 100' daylight loads for > my students, there were several labs (can't remember which, sorry) that > would send me as many 100' daylight spools as I asked for for the cost of > shipping alone. The labs that processed lots of 100' loads for schools etc. > always had more empty daylight spools than they wanted to store, since they > always returned the processed film on those white plastic reels. I suppose > (sigh) when labs have gone under, their stock of daylight spools have > mostly gone into the recycling bin. But there might be a bunch in a storage > locker somewhere. > > It would certainly be worth contacting any and all labs that still process > any significant amount of 100' loads to find out what they do with the > empty daylight spools, and under what conditions they're willing to part > with them. > > .......... > > Which brings me back to the subject of 16mm makers and teachers organizing > to deal with issues related to keeping the format viable. I'm disappointed > (though not at all surprised) that there has been zero response on this > list to Alex Belkam's original suggestion about this, or my reply. The idea > of Organizing experimental film folks may seem like herding cats, but it > had to have been possible to some degree at one time at least, or else the > Coops wouldn't exist, right? > > The 'vibe' I'm getting from the comments in the "[Frameworks] Kodak Film > Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December" thread is 'someone will > pick up the slack of stock production when Kodak folds, so we don't have to > do anything, at least not collectively.' IMHO, any such thought is > painfully naive. The 16mm ship has been sinking steadily through our young > century. The first big blows were the discontinuation of 7240 and Fuji > stepping out of the game, and the situation just keeps getting worse every > year. You can't look at the actual trends over time, and the continuing > relevance of the reasons behind them, and realistically imagine things are > going to level off at some point, or even slow down, more or less by > themselves. You can search the Frameworks archives going back 15 years, in > the endless 'film vs. video' threads, and you'll find the posts about 16mm > viability and the future prospects of 16mm to overwhelmingly dominated by > what has proved to be sad wishful thinking. > > The time to organize is not now. It was 15 years ago, but at that point in > time a little foresight would have been required. But by 2005, the need for > collective action should have been obvious. Now it's screaming at the top > of it's lungs, flailing it's arms and jumping up and down. Is anybody > paying attention? > > The daylight spool issue Nicky raises is pretty damn important, but it's > just the tippy-top of a very big iceberg. Who's the youngest tech anyone > can name who can fix a Bolex or Beaulieu? If you came name anyone who'll > service a Filmo or K100, same question. Can you name anyone under 30 who's > learning this trade? How do you imagine the knowledge and skills of Dieter, > Jean-Louis, Bernie, Andrew, Dwight et. al. are going to be passed on to the > next generation? > > "If we don't hang together, we will surely all hand separately" - Benjamin > Franklin. > > Given that 'you should organize' is a fairly vague proposition, I shall > suggest a possible concrete step in that direction. A 16mm maker/teacher on > the full-time faculty of a well-regarded college or university > (**cough**howboutRogerBeebe**cough) should try to get their institution to > hold/sponsor a conference/symposium/whatever on 'The Future of 16mm > Filmmaking' to which all the significant players would be invited (travel > funds supplied for without institutional support), for the purpose of > sharing ideas, coming up with a plan, and moving toward putting it into > action. As an exemplar of such a move's utility, I would point to Dan > Streible, who more or less single-handedly started the Orphan Film movement > by getting symposia off the ground which pulled in enough people to start a > Movement for the Cause. As a pragmatic aside, I'd note that being in on the > ground floor of an academic movement is a great way to achieve tenure, or > get promoted from Associate to Full. > > And you won't even have to sing the chorus of 'Alice's Restaurant' to a > psychologist. > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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