Good catch on #1 Adam!

I replied before I had my morning coffee and was assuming the worst case 
scenario.

Coffee has been had and now the world is a friendly place again... :-)


On 2015-10-01, at 12:55 PM, Adam Hyman wrote:

> #1 isn’t true but the rest are.
> 
> Fair Use for critical commentary is a real thing, at least in the United 
> States, for US-originated publications.  (Copyright law is different from 
> country to country, although the US & Europe at least have been working to 
> sync up their laws.)  
> Just because artists or distributors or film studios don’t want it to be 
> doesn’t mean it isn’t; to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever sued on 
> that point and won, as they know that a more likely result would be that they 
> would lose.
> 
> In addition, something is never plagiarism if it is credited.  (It might be 
> other things, but not “plagiarism”.)  And an image to illustrate a point that 
> you are making in an academic context also isn’t “plagiarism”. 
> 
> However, using an image without permission for advertising or marketing is 
> not fair use.  You can’t use it on the cover of a book or in an ad without 
> full permission.
> 
> But the other reasons are more then good enough to ask permission from the 
> artist.  It’s also good form, and to let someone know that their work is 
> being discussed, which might lead to some publicity, and good dialogue.  And 
> most people in my experience do let you use it for free.  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Adam
> (I also have extensive experience doing rights & clearance work for a living)
> 
> 
> On 10/1/15 4:50 AM, "Amanda Christie" <ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Yes but for every asshole, there are probably 5 people who will allow you to 
>> use the image for free.  Just ask.
>> 
>> Here are some solid reasons why you should approach the owners of the image:
>> 
>> 1.  If this is an academic publication, you absolutely need to get the 
>> artists' permission to use the image, otherwise it falls under plagiarism.
>> 
>> 2.  If you get the image from the artist or their distributor the image will 
>> be of much higher quality than from a screen grab
>> 
>> 3.  If the artist or distributor does charge a fee, it likely won't be 
>> exhorbitant.  In Canada, the organizations CARFAC and CARCC set fee 
>> schedules as guidelines for the cost of licensing to reproduce images... and 
>> the fees vary depending on what you're doing with them (i.e. type of 
>> publication, whether it's for sale or not, print run, etc.) 
>> You can find the list of their fee schedule here: 
>> http://www.carcc.ca/fee_schedule_2015_2_reproduction.html
>> 
>> 4.  Integrity:  Getting an artist's permission to reproduce their image is a 
>> good thing to do if you are using it to talk about their work or to 
>> illustrate something.  Don't steal it or plagiarize.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2015-10-01, at 7:40 AM, marilyn brakhage wrote:
>> 
>>> Well -- yes.  That's probably true too.
>>> 
>>> Marilyn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30-Sep-15, at 8:58 PM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote:
>>> 
>>>> However, you don’t have to spend much time in the experimental film 
>>>> community to run into artists who have a vastly inflated opinion of 
>>>> themselves, incredible insecurities, and just plain nuttiness.  They may 
>>>> never answer you, insist on reviewing everything you are saying about them 
>>>> for pre-approval, or want to gouge you.
>>> 
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