On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Rodrigo N Hernandez <
re...@minasambiente.com.br> wrote:

> Hello Mehmet,
>
> I'm not entirely sure if I understand what is the goal but if you're
> talking about computer labs:
> One option would be using vnc sessions (tightvnc e.g.), so students can
> watch lessons on their own terminals. It’s possible to set view only
> sessions also. It sounds feasible that all command line work being done
> from the virtual X session as well.
> It’s also possible to make vnc sessions running from jails (for
> testing/disposable jails e.g.). With stuff like this you don’t even need to
> worry about extra hardware. In fact it can be all done from a headless
> server.
>
> Well sorry if this have nothing to do about your intents, just some option.
>
> Cheers,
> Rodrigo
>
>
>

Assume we started KDE and testing a graphically displayed program .
During that time , stdin , stdout , stderr outputs are not visible .
Operating system is not using a graphical display .
Therefore , there is a need to be able to define stdin , stdout , stderr
divertible to different monitors ( by , for example , loader.conf
definitions )  attached to PCI , USB , or main board ports .
There is possibility of use of xrandr , but this is an extension to X
Window .

By using different monitors , it will be possible to view inner working of
the operating system on line , otherwise , stored information can be viewed
off line .

As an example , in KDE , start a terminal . In that terminal , start a
graphically usable program , for example , Dolphin . You will see that ,
there will be many messages displayed in the terminal .
No one these messages are displayed when Dolphin is started from KDE menus .

Ability to divert stdin into an independent monitor is important because
when a program continuously displays data onto stdout , it is not possible
to enter any input up to end of the working program .



Mehmet Erol Sanliturk






> Em 20/11/2015 11:47, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk escreveu:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:43 AM, George Neville-Neil <
>> g...@neville-neil.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> Thursday evening at 18:00 BST I pushed changes to teachbsd.org that
>>> update
>>> the page so that it points to a new github repo, owned by the teachbsd
>>> organization (https://github.com/teachbsd).
>>> The organization is run by Robert Watson and myself.
>>> We can add or remove collaborators if and when that becomes appropriate.
>>>
>>> The initial repository (https://github.com/teachbsd/course) contains all
>>> of the material for the practitioner and masters style courses as well as
>>> a PDF for the teaching guide.
>>> All of the material is licensed under a BSD doc team license, also
>>> visible
>>> in the repo and on the github site.
>>>
>>> Our goal now is to initially recruit a small number of universities to
>>> partner
>>> with us to teach this material, and to have the number grow as we polish
>>> the material.  We also wish to solicit contributions of similar teaching
>>> material
>>> for inclusion in the site, via links at first, and into the repo if that
>>> seems appropriate
>>> at a later time.
>>>
>>> We will keep you posted on our progress.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> George
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> In my opinion , one of the most important tools in such a work is the
>> ability to display
>> stdin , stdout and stderr on different monitors alongside with output
>> monitor(s) for graphic displays such as Gnome or KDE or any other X based
>> desktops also .
>>
>> This requires additions to FreeBSD sources to definition of such
>> application which requires to use at the same time multiple graphic cards
>> (
>> on board , PCI , USB , etc. , simultaneously ) .
>>
>> My knowledge is not sufficient to achieve this .
>>
>> This will allow watching execution steps on line instead of diverting them
>> to file and then read the contents of file .
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much .
>>
>>
>> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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