> Every once in a while (generally while upgrading ports/packages), I look > over there and see our single Windows machine and think, "we never have > to run `portupgrade` on that boxen... and I'm smart enough to avoid virii."
You mean it does it automagically, making dual booting Windows XP a nightmare? Whenever I need to run Windows quickly because of some app on my laptop I spend half an hour waiting for the downloads of quicktime, acrobat, openoffice, windows, java, etc. to complete and then have to reboot again. Let alone when I am on the road using a UMTS/HSDPA card to connect to the Internet ... Imagine the cost of those extra megabytes they force upon me. Sure. I can switch it off in all the settings boxes, if I figure out what's going on (without tcpdump/trafshow available). On the FBSD side: I update whenever I need a feature (like iwi driver updates). ports I upgrade every 3 months or so, by doing a cvsup /usr/ports-supfile portupgrade -a --use-packages on friday night, hoping it won't have killed and not restored KDE by monday morning as I need to get work done at that point. Usually I spend a few hours bending things into shape. Yes, things are broken once in a while, which is annoying (Kontact has deleted all content from my PDA since last update), but at least I can read my mail without being terrified of picking up a virus and ruining my day. And I whenever I reinstall a machine from scratch, it takes me 4 hours to get a machine completely back to the state it was in. Buy the same laptop again and you have an up to date system, with all the (user) settings preserved. Try that on Windows without spending a fun! $79.99 with a $5 value rebait! Hey, and when KDE isn't working: there is still the console, with VIM syntax highlighting, You should see the looks on the faces in first class in the train... :-) Nick
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