Oliver Fromme wrote:
Matt Olander wrote:
> Dan Langille wrote:
> > Oliver Fromme wrote:
> > > I definitely prefer Opera for normal browsing because it's
> > > faster and has more useful features, so I use it most of
> > > the time. I only start up Firefox when I need to visit
> > > a site that requires Flash, which doesn't happen too
> > > often, fortunately.
> >
> > I also use Opera. It is my browser of choice on more than one
> > platform.
> >
> > I'd like Flash to just work.
>
> I've cc'd Kris from the PC-BSD project as I'm not sure he's subscribed
> to the list. I'm also a big fan of Opera and it's working well with
> Flash on the last PC-BSD alpha with no work on my part.
Are you sure? When I first started testing it, it _seemed_
to work well, too, but after some time it started hanging
and accumulating dead "operapliginwrapper" processes.
In particular, I'm using the sites http://www.youtupe.de
and http://www.spiegel.de/video/ (sorry, mostly German).
The first video on both of those sites usually plays fine,
but when you continue browsing videos, it'll start hanging
on the third or forth video, and then it gets unusable.
> Kris, did you
> have to add any secret sauce to get Flash working so well with
> Firefox, Konqueror, and Opera in the last alpha?
I'd be very much interested in the answer to that question,
too.
> FYI, we're working closely with Adobe to get native Flash on FreeBSD.
> I expect we'll have a solution at some point this year.
That's very good news!
However, I think the problems I'm seeing are not caused by
the Flash plugin itself, but by the glue code that Opera
is using. After all, the plugin works much better with
Firefox (even native Firefox, using nspluginwrapper).
It seems that Opera's "operapluginwrapper" has some bugs,
or it tries to use things that FreeBSD's Linux emulation
isn't providing correctly. (I guess it's the latter,
because it works better under Linux.)
By the way, I'm using RELENG_7 (just a few days old) and
linux_base-f8 with compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16, linprocfs
and even linsysfs (even though I believe that Opera and
Flash don't really need linsysfs).
Best regards
Oliver
I think we're all in the same boat here. Opera hasn't been working
properly with the Flash 9 plugin here either. I can get it to "see" the
wrapper plugin, but whenever it tries to utilize it, it just throws
"startPlugin failed" on stderr, with no other information. The same
plugin works great on FF and Konqueror though, so I think its an opera
problem.
--
Kris Moore
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