On Mon, 5 Mar 2018, Vladimir Botka wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 07:40:48 +0100
Franco Fichtner <fra...@lastsummer.de> wrote:
On 4. Mar 2018, at 10:02 PM, Jeff Roberson <jrober...@jroberson.net> wrote:
I would urge everyone to be calm and patient. This is an important dialog and
it's bound to be bumpy. I also strongly urge people to refrain from discussing
it further on technical lists where it is counter productive and unwelcome.
So you are saying "shut up" and be patient like we've never been patient in
the last couple of years? That's bold, but unfortunately also consistent MO.
Cheers,
Franco
He said you should refrain from discussing it on technical lists. You might
want to consider freebsd-chat.
Thank you. Chat seems like an ok list for this until we're told otherwise
by administrators. I am not personally subscribed to -chat so please keep
me in the cc if you wish to keep hearing from me. I urge again that we
refrain from inflammatory language and hyperbole.
I'm sorry that people are frustrated. I not infrequently find the project
frustrating. My urge for patience is because this dialog is very fresh
and still being worked out. Whatever else you have been patient for we
have only had the new coc for less than a month. I think there are some
misconceptions about how the project is run and what the core team does
that might help clear up some confusion.
Firstly, the project is governed by its members. These are people with a
vested interest who have contributed to the project. We are not governed
by the users. The conversation is challenging enough with nearly 400
participants. I assure you that whatever your view point is, it is likely
already represented in that 400. If you would like to be part of the
conversation I urge you to work on obtaining a commit bit. I will also
assure you that various project members are in touch with the community
via reddit, slashdot, freebsd forums, freebsd mailing lists, twitter, etc.
It can be challenging to determine who is a legitimate part of the
community and who is an outside interloper capitalizing on a political
moment, for this reason among many, we are self-governing.
Core is an administrative group elected from volunteers. It is not their
responsibility to set priorities for technical development, accept
patches, or even strictly speaking be community liaisons. We might hope
that they take on some of these mantles of their own volition but that is
up to the individual. Their charter is more or less administrative work,
governance.
Regarding patches, I don't know what subsystem they involve or if there is
an active maintainer or what steps you've taken. It is all frustratingly
ad-hoc at times as it is a volunteer effort and it's up to individuals to
take up these responsibilities. I again urge everyone who can contribute
and maintain a standard of civil discussion to seek a commit bit.
Contribution to FreeBSD can be both personally and professionally
rewarding.
Regards,
Jeff
-vlado
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