After discussion with Soren off list, I'm bringing this onlist :) Machine: K6/2-450 on Asus P5A with 128 Meg PC133 (runnin 100) ram, Western Digital Caviar AC23400L 4.3 gig, Sony DDU220E dvd rom OS: FreeBSD 3.x-STABLE for much time, switch to 4.0-CURRENT ~month and a half ago?, been updating and building/installing worlds now and again since Problem: Drive does not support (or claims to not support) the LBA access methods. I'm not certain if there's some little tweak that's wrong in the bios, or if the acd driver's confused, or if the drivey (Sony DDU220E) generally hates LBA. Problem _did not exist_ under 3.x-STABLE that I recall. (read as, maybe somone should point me to how to debug this really low level ;) Specifically, I could go into cdcontrol and attempt to play by block, track, disk in general, etc. and it would fail with an i/o error in the program, and a PLAY_BIG -- ILLEGAL REQUEST on console. WHen forcing it to play by the MSF methods (specify the Minute Second and Frame to start and end with) it worked. Further, I did a hack in atapi-cd.c to translate the lba PLAYBLOCKS (I think) to translate to MSF and use PLAY_MSF instead..... That, too, worked. Three things) 1) Soren or some other highly educated person, can you give me a hand (read as: give me insight into where to look) to see where the lba would be failing so that it might be fixed 2) If one fails (which I don't see as happening since the drive worked under 3.x-Stable just fine ;), it would be really nice if the kernel would handle this and say, 'Oh, he wants to use LBA playing methods which won't work on an MSF drive... We need to translate and call the MSF.' I don't like this, and I take from the sound of it, Soren didn't either (he mentioned that there wasn't a real good soloution). 3) If cdcontrol allows switching from msf (default) to lba can we have this better documented.... I don't really know what this switches between. I certainly _want_ cdcontrol to play MSF since it can't LBA, but this doesn't do that. (Note: The reason I suggest having the kernel do the translation to MSF is that it's not going to be easy/possible to ask every program to check it themselves ***sigh***) j. PS dmesg w/ ACDDEBUG Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #10: Sun Mar 12 19:37:43 EST 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/net/dragonstar/project/FreeBSD/4.0-CURRENT/src/sys/compile/KNIGHTSTAR Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (451.02-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,PGE,MMX> AMD Features=0x80000800<SYSCALL,3DNow!> real memory = 134201344 (131056K bytes) config> q avail memory = 126963712 (123988K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc030f000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc030f09c. VESA: v2.0, 8192k memory, flags:0x0, mode table:0xc02b9c42 (1000022) VESA: ATI MACH64 md0: Malloc disk npx0: <math processor> on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: <APM BIOS> on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 pcib0: <AcerLabs M1541 (Aladdin-V) PCI host bridge> on motherboard pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0 pcib1: <AcerLabs M5243 PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1 chip1: <AcerLabs M15x3 Power Management Unit> at device 3.0 on pci0 isab0: <AcerLabs M1533 portable PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xd800-0xd87f mem 0xdf000000-0xdf00007f irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:05:6a:43 miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: <ATI Mach64-GP graphics accelerator> at 10.0 irq 9 pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x1105, dev=0x8300) at 12.0 irq 10 atapci0: <AcerLabs Aladdin ATA33 controller> port 0xd000-0xd00f irq 0 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: <keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: <System console> on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0 lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0 unknown: <PNP0400> can't assign resources unknown: <PNP0501> can't assign resources unknown: <PNP0501> can't assign resources unknown: <PNP0700> can't assign resources unknown: <PNP0f13> can't assign resources unknown0: <PNP0c01> at iomem 0-0x9ffff,0x100000-0x7ffffff,0xe8000-0xeffff,0xf0000-0xf3fff,0xf4000-0xf7fff,0xf8000-0xfbfff,0xfc000-0xfffff,0xfffe0000-0xffffffff on isa0 unknown: <PNP0000> can't assign resources unknown1: <PNP0100> at port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on isa0 unknown2: <PNP0b00> at port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on isa0 unknown: <PNP0303> can't assign resources unknown3: <PNP0c04> at port 0xf0 irq 13 on isa0 unknown4: <PNP0200> at port 0-0xf,0x80-0x90,0x94-0x9f,0xc0-0xde drq 4 on isa0 unknown: <PNP0800> can't assign resources unknown5: <PNP0a03> at port 0xcf8-0xcff on isa0 unknown6: <PNP0c02> at port 0x290-0x297,0x40b,0x480-0x49f,0x4d6,0xec00-0xec3f,0xe800-0xe83f on isa0 pcm0: <Yamaha OPL-SAx> at port 0x220-0x22f,0x530-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x330-0x331,0x370-0x371 irq 5 drq 0,1 on isa0 unknown7: <OPL3-SAX Sound Board> at port 0x201 on isa0 unknown8: <OPL3-SAX Sound Board> at port 0x100-0x107 on isa0 unknown9: <Generic ESDI/IDE/ATA controller> at port 0x1e8-0x1ef,0x3ee irq 11 on isa0 ad0: 4112MB <WDC AC24300L> [8912/15/63] at ata0-master using UDMA33 acd: mode sense 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 acd: mode sense 00-20-70-00-00-00-00-00-2a-18-0b-00-71-ff-29-23-00-00-01-00-02-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 acd0: DVD-ROM <DVD-ROM DDU220E> at ata1-master using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 0 retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 3534300 retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 3534300 retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 3534300 retrying ad0: UDMA ICRC READ ERROR blk# 3534300ata0-master: WARNING: WAIT_READY active=ATA_ACTIVE_ATA falling back to PIO mode To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message