On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Glen Barber <g...@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:16:46AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 06:58:16 +0100 > > Matthias Apitz <g...@unixarea.de> wrote: > > > > > El día Wednesday, January 18, 2017 a las 08:00:04PM -0500, Allan Jude > > > escribió: > > > > > > > On 2017-01-18 14:37, O. Hartmann wrote: > > > > > Am Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:38:32 +0100 > > > > > Matthias Apitz <g...@unixarea.de> schrieb: > > > > > > > > > >> Why you do not just boot from USB some mem stick image, mount > some disk > > > > >> space to /mnt, svn checkout CURRENT to /mnt and build a booteable > system > > > > >> (world and kernel) and install to DESTDIR=/mnt ? > > > > >> > > > > >> I do not understand all this hassle? > > > > >> > > > > >> matthias > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Wow! > > > > > > > > > > As I initially stated, that is EXACTLY what I was inclined to do > except > > > > > the fact that I had already an intact /usr/obj and usr/src with a > > > > > complete compiled system. > > > > > > > > > > I booted from mem stick and I was lost due to no cc! > > > > > > > > > > Even for "make installworld" it seems I have to rely on the > compiler. And > > > > > the images (ISO, memstick et cetera) provided these days do not > contain > > > > > any clang. > > > > > > Yes, you will need it and it will complain about missing it, if for > > > example you moved 'obj and 'src' to other dirs after 'make build...' > > > > > > But, in your case the mem image really is lacking the cc/clang; I > > > fetched the image an did: > > > > > > > > > # mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 1 -f > > > ~guru/Downloads/FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img # mount -o > > > ro /dev/md1p3 /mnt # find /mnt -name clang > > > /mnt/usr/share/doc/llvm/clang > > > /mnt/usr/lib/clang > > > /mnt/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/clang > > > # find /mnt -name cc > > > /mnt/usr/include/netinet/cc > > > > > > With this img alone, you can't compile a system :-( > > > > > > Setup a system from DVD and build your own image containing a complete > > > system on an USB key; with this boot your damaged system, recompile and > > > reinstall world and kernel. If you (O. Hartmann) need a step by step > > > guide, I could send it to you. > > > > > > matthias > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > thanks for your help offering! very kind. > > > > I've already solved the problem - not with the suggested process, but via > > copying missing libs and files from and identical intact source. After > that, I > > ran make buildword/buildkernel and was able to successfully install the > new > > system. > > > > As I stated before: I already had a complete compiled world and kernel > existing > > in their proper, intact folders (usr/src and usr/obj). There was no need > to > > compile a whole world. > > Intending to "make installworld" failed, this is the real problem, > because the > > ISO/memstick images provided lack obviously in the required > infrastructure and > > so these images are worthless for sophisticated rescue operations - or > even > > such a simple ask as described initially in my posting. > > > > I created images on CURRENT of my own - they all lack in the ability of > having > > the necessary tools aboard. So I consider every image useless for rescue > > operations except, maybe, the DVD image - but this one is not provided > anymore. > > For what reason? Time? Accepted. Space/disk usage? Well, welcome back in > the > > stoneage of computer technology ... > > > > I remember faintly that there was a small discussion on the @CURRENT > list, but > > I didn't realize that the result would be the extraction of the compiler. > > > > Just for the record: most servers delivered to us do not have CD/DVD > drives > > anymore - they are outdated and considered an extra these days. > Purchasing 1 GB > > USB thumbdrives is getting even harder, smallest size my employer > provides now > > is 2 GB. And most optical drives are DVD. From my point of view - and > this is a > > personal view - the "standard" is > 1GB so there is no need to break > down by > > force the FreeBSD image (if size is the reason) down to < 800 MB or < 1 > GB. I'd > > consider having < 2GB the line of standards (2 GB USB mem drive). > > And for those, with need of very small images, smaller images could be > provided > > as the extra. > > > > I do want to weigh in here and inform I am actively watching this > thread. clang(1) is not in disc1.iso or bootonly.iso because the > MK_TOOLCHAIN knob is disabled in the targets that generate them. This > has actually been the case for quite some time for these images. > > dvd1.iso does contain clang, but very rarely (if ever, actually) are > there dvd1.iso images produced for development snapshots. This is, in > part, solely because of the additional space/bandwidth required on the > mirrors (not just mirrors controlled by the Project, but third-party > mirrors as well). > > I am working on splitting out how the memstick.img and disc1.iso images > are produced, but ran into a problem which I'm looking into a workaround > that is backwards-compatible. Since for USB images, a 700MB limit does > not make sense, and right now it just so happens that the memstick.img > is created from the same contents of disc1.iso. > > I know this does not help with the immediate issue, but wanted to chime > in with I do see and understand the larger issue, and am working on > a more long-term resolution instead of a one-line workaround. > > Glen > > Good to see discussion, but my 5c is: do not enlarge regular install media, it is hefty enough. I'd rather see it shrink, although without the limitations of old cd's rescue-env. Install media is install media, not live image. Live usb-sticks are so easy to do on your own, why waste the Projects storage and bandwidth on it? Best regards Andreas _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
