On 06.12.2019 17:52, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 03:33:09PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 3:31 PM Steve Kargl >> <s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 12:23:16PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: >>>> I updates /usr/src to r355452, and updated by kernel and >>>> world. Upon rebooting, verbose boot messages susgests >>>> the system is hanging when USB starts to attach. With >>>> the 3-week kernel verbose boot shows: >>>> >>>> ... >>>> pcm4: Playback channel matrix is: 2.0 (unknown) >>>> usbus0: 5.0Gbps Super Speed USB v3.0 >>>> ... >>>> >>>> end with a prompt on the console. With today's kernel, >>>> boot is hung after the last pcm4: message and no usbus0 >>>> is displayed. >>>> >>>> The booting kernel/system is a >>>> >>>> % uname -a >>>> FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #1 r354658: Wed Nov 13 11:23:32 PST 2019, amd64 >>>> >>>> Again, the failing kernel is r 355452 >>>> >>> >>> The problem seems to be caused 355010. This is a commit to >>> fix CAM, which seems to break USB. >>> >> >> Yes. mav@ made this change... >> > > src/UPDATING seems to be missing an entry about CAM breaking USB.
And also that moon is made of cheese. :-\ > The commit message for 355010 states: > > Devices appearing on USB bus later may still require setting > kern.cam.boot_delay, but hopefully those are minority. > > There is no statement about "where" kern.cam.boot_delay should be set. > There is no statement about "what" value(s) kern.cam.boot_delay should be. If you never needed it before, you still don't need it. > For the record add kern.cam.boot_delay to /boot/loader.conf with the > values 0, 1, and "1" did not allow the system to boot. boot_delay value is measured in milliseconds, so values of 0 and 1 mean close to nothing. You may try to set it to some 10000, if you really want to try to delay CAM devices attach, but I doubt. > The system > will not boot with or without > > umass0 on uhub1 > umass0: <Seagate BUP SL, class 0/0, rev 3.00/1.00, addr 2> on usbus0 > umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0100 > umass0:9:0: Attached to scbus9 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus9 target 0 lun 0 > da0: <Seagate BUP SL 0304> Fixed Direct Access SPC-4 SCSI device > da0: Serial Number NA7PEG27 > da0: 400.000MB/s transfers > da0: 3815447MB (7814037167 512 byte sectors) > da0: quirks=0x2<NO_6_BYTE> > > plugged into the port. If system hangs even without any USB disk attached, then I don't see a relation between CAM and USB here. My change could affect some timings of the boot process, but without closer debugging it is hard to guess something. To be sure whether USB is related I would try to disable all USB controllers either in BIOS or with set of loader tunables like hint.ehci.0.disabled=1 , hint.ohci.0.disabled=1 , hint.xhci.0.disabled=1, ... -- Alexander Motin _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"